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Re: [Official] DotA Player Behavior Reports & Improvement Submissions

Postby MIKEJONES » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:07 pm

Astros wrote:
mk4r32 wrote:Friends? lmfao. Do I look like goku to you?

Don't get it twisted, I only gave you the courtesy since you were an admin here at one point contributing to the server and is one of the better players here.

Don't pull Mike into this, you sound bitter for various reasons. You posted and I responded.

Explain to me where I was mad? I told freemywilly guy to stop talking to me as he feeds off your comments and you simply just ignored me out of frustration.

You seem to throw a major tantrum frequently when you are losing and that shit is tiring.

You come at me and I'll give it back to you. You don't get enough of those on here and you definitely been feeling yourself, super comfortable saying whatever the fuck you want ever since.

Don't bro me either, that sounds disgusting coming out of your mouth.


"Yup, I agree. Maxipads on me next time for the troubles."

You act like I'm saying anything different that I wouldn't say otherwise to other garbage players, which you are.

Your pudge fucking sucks, period.

Major tantrum? All I said is you suck, lmao. You say stay away from Mogu but at least he buys wards and shit. You don't buy shit and just feed. You say far worse but the negative is you are worse than half the players you report. Maybe at least 80% of them are better than you, actually. Trader is 100% better than you. Mechanically, Jazzy is also better than you. Hexar is probably better than you but he randoms often. You play like 3 heroes and still suck ass. You disagree that you suck? Find 5 players who can vouch for your gameplay. You can't.

Take for instance, this game:
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 256569.w3g

1/12, doing nothing but suiciding. Hooking a full HP Abbadon to start a fight with him still having his ultimate. It's like you don't even have a strategy to your pudge. Just do stupid shit and expect people to accept it. Zero wards, btw.

Just be honest, I made you mad. You thought we are cordial so when I said something bad to you, you're starting with the 'Astros is having his period' nonsense. I don't have an issue with you other than your gameplay is dogshit and I've never seen you do anything to help your team win. Truth is, you really do suck. Look at everyone in that same game literally saying "Does caffrey ever have a good game". Nimbus is just afraid to say it but he knows you suck too.

Aren't you the same guy who used to make names ending with a z like tribez or some shit? I've been saying you are garbage for a long ass time. Every game with your pudge is just laughably bad. You must be wearing a pirate patch or something. At least do what you used to do and pick earthshaker so you can be useful.

"sound bitter"

Nah, been meaning to actually say you suck ass for a while but came across that request against you where you deliberately ruin another game and then report others for much lesser behavior shows you're just a POS who thinks you're immune. I said far worse to andeng but you seem to think I'm targeting you. If you suck, I'll talk shit. Just the truth.


This post aims to facilitate constructive discussions about player performance and improvement. I appreciate the respectful exchanges here, keeping toxic language to a minimum. My perspective is that @mk4r32’s apparent underperformance, whether playing Pudge or other heroes, often stems from mood swings. There are moments when he mentally checks out early in the game, feeling the team can’t recover or win. This behavior can make him seem less skilled, but mechanically, I've seen him capable of outperforming myself and other players. I’ve spoken with @mk4r32, and he acknowledges areas for improvement. Let’s move forward and encourage new discussions about other players’ gameplay or in-game behavior to continue on fostering growth.

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Re: [Official] DotA Player Behavior Reports & Improvement Submissions

Postby h3rmit » Fri Jul 04, 2025 12:26 pm

I'll mention this here since it still seems relevant.

After monitoring the new stats page over a few weeks, I noticed that the farm rating was inflated and felt unnatural for all players. After rechecking, it turned out that the long-term community average had been incorrectly calculated (around half than it should have been), resulting in everyone's farm rating being inflated.

Also the escape rating (opposite of death) was not reflected correctly in the monthly graph. Furthermore, to eliminate some unnatural spikes in the graph, I excluded months with less than 3 games played, as they are not indicative of a player's performance.

Now everything feels more in scale with reality.

A few examples:
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What should be noted is that according to the data, most players' performance stays consistent over time, especially when there's a sufficient large sample. Strategies can always improve (e.g. positioning, teamplay, warding, etc), but it looks like skill itself mostly remains consistent.

Also, some deductions can be made about what a player can generally focus to improve in their gameplay, in each player's overview and heroes page.
A few examples:

  • hexar needs to focus on getting more kills
  • jazzy3113 could use some more farm and kills
  • superballer could reduce some of his farm to focus on getting more kills or assists instead

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Re: [Official] DotA Player Behavior Reports & Improvement Submissions

Postby Snells » Fri Jul 04, 2025 1:30 pm

Jazzy won't work on farm, that would take away from him talking.

Oh, and he is also "700 elo", as he likes to remind people.

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Re: [Official] DotA Player Behavior Reports & Improvement Submissions

Postby Jazzy3113 » Fri Jul 04, 2025 1:57 pm

:D :D :D
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Re: [Official] DotA Player Behavior Reports & Improvement Submissions

Postby Jazzy3113 » Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:23 pm

Snells wrote:Jazzy won't work on farm, that would take away from him talking.

Oh, and he is also "700 elo", as he likes to remind people.


You know what’s hilarious? All this interesting research hermit has done has shown what I’m always complaining about.

That I am an average player, but my elo is the lowest of pretty much all players. How can that be?

Everyone says I ruin, but hermits stats show that is not the case. An average player should be around 1k or 950 elo, yet I’m 700. How’s that possible? Think about it, an average player with average distribution of teammates should win half the games and be average elo, yet I’m like one or two standard deviations away from the mean elo.


In fact just look at my last ten games. When I win, I have to play well. Theres never a game where I go 0-10 and get carried. And when I’ve won recently, the other team played normal and did not have a clear ruiner.

But look at recent losses. There is always some moron who who ruins. Always. So either I have to play well and get a competent team, or I have no shot.

In summary, my stats say I’m average and trending up in skill, yet my elo remains below players like Pegasus and firefly and Zika and Nick best and master pain and hexar. The only reasonable explanation is that people don’t try on my team or outright troll.

Look at my two most recent losses as a solid example. In one loss, the moron went 0-11 and the cowards on the other team refused to kick. I always kick the ruiner, but the opponent never kicks my ruiner. Ever.

And the other loss was due to 0-6 leo who was so bad he got banned.

And finally, look at the games. 1 out of 5 I’m the best on my team. Have you ever, EVER, seen Pegasus or hexar or Zika perform the best? Cause I never have.

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Re: [Official] DotA Player Behavior Reports & Improvement Submissions

Postby EdteOfChaos2 » Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:41 pm

You should pull the chat logs from the game and then sentiment analysis them to give everyone a rank for flaming their own team.

BTW h3rmit already said you're wrong here:
In average, Zjarr seems to be performing a little worse when he's your enemy, than when he's your ally.


Yes, you read that correctly.
Zjarr (and most other players too) play BETTER on your team than when they're against you. They lose more anyways because they still can't carry you.


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