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Do you want to have seperate statslists for standard dota and easymode?

Poll ended at Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:19 pm

Yes, I want seperate statslists, easymode differs too much from standard dota.
13
54%
No, I want to keep the status quo, easymode is almost like standard dota anyway
11
46%
 
Total votes: 24

EdgeOfChaos

Re: Top players list

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:17 pm

It's possible to play both modes and not only "stomp noobs" in EM

And yeah, the implementation of this does seem impossible.

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Re: Top players list

Postby Fangorn » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:29 pm

It would require some work, it is indeed possible. The poll proved that most people want this change to happen.

And if you play both modes, fine. Play both modes. There will be one list for your easymode games, and one list for your standard games. There's no more to it than that

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Re: Top players list

Postby BurritoCarcass » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:53 pm

24 people voted... out of the thousands that play ent... dont get ahead of yourself.
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EdgeOfChaos

Re: Top players list

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:24 pm

The poll proves nothing
For example, let's have a new poll: should abortion be legal
Poll choices:
Yes, I love murdering babies
No, I think everyone deserves life
I bet the "no" option would win don't you?

Try making a non biased poll next time ("yes" and "no")
You should never put your own personal opinions in a poll option when you yourself are biased

The margin in favor of changing is also very small, and this is a drastic change.

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Re: Top players list

Postby Fangorn » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:30 pm

The options represent the opinions of each respectively mode. I am sure most easymoders would agree on the statement given, so it's not personal at all.
You should rather try to come up with reasons not to implement this system. So far, the "It's not fair to those who have stacked their way to the top on easymodegames" simply aren't good enough

EdgeOfChaos

Re: Top players list

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:49 pm

I am sure most easymoders would agree on the statement given, so it's not personal at all.

Doubt it, as easymode is totally different than non-em. And I play some em. There are factual differences between em and non-em and those are quite big. To say that all people who vote no will agree with the statement that em is just like non-em is disingenuous and a terrible attempt to bias the poll.

I gave you reasons
It's not fair to those who have stacked their way to the top on easymodegames

That's not what I said at all. How about you read my posts better?

(edit)
queen_kristen wrote:you totally worded that to your favor... most decent players know that its not like standard dota so ofc there gonna say yes.

This is what you did..

Make a new poll with options "Yes" and "No" only and let's see. If this isn't a biased poll, it should be relatively easy to win the same poll with options "Yes" and "No" right?

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Re: Top players list

Postby BlackSpade » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:00 pm

Fangorn wrote:The options represent the opinions of each respectively mode. I am sure most easymoders would agree on the statement given, so it's not personal at all.
You should rather try to come up with reasons not to implement this system. So far, the "It's not fair to those who have stacked their way to the top on easymodegames" simply aren't good enough


What makes you think people who stack and stomps games in easymode won't do the same in non-em modes?

Also you talk about serious gaming in ap non-em is some what laughable... and also if you want some what challenging dota games? why do you only play ap euro?? I'm not dissing on the european players but %99 of the european dota players are pretty much clueless on how to play dota.

Edit: I have better suggestion!! how about leave the stats as it is and add separate stats for autobalance CM mode for players who have higher than 1300 elo for normal stats? and everyone starts 1000elo for a-bal cm mode games.
This way people can actually play atleast %1 of how competitive dota is meant to be played instead of bickering about how dota should be played in typical public game that are meant to be played for public gamers.
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EdgeOfChaos

Re: Top players list

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:18 pm

You mean like HR statpage for CM? That would be cool.

Thing about Fangorn's suggestion is, you will be splitting a statpage that already has thousands of players in two, which will affect many players, as many people play some AP and some APEM. Messing with stats when they were already played on for a long time is a bad idea. Adding a statpage for a new mode would be fine in my opinion though

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Re: Top players list

Postby Chantry » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:20 pm

This entire suggestion is gay.

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Re: Top players list

Postby Aghnaar » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:49 pm

If u gonna split statistics, maybe split euro and us/ca hosted game stats. Everytime i join a euro game and i decide to play carry, i end up being beyond godlike, because no good players join these games except from some stackers. Note that I'm from europe too, but i can't lie, euro hosted games are not a challenge. So those who try to hit first place on euro bots are not that great imo.
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Re: Top players list

Postby uakf.b » Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:54 pm

Will be decided internally.
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