Automessages in lobby

[Fangorn]

Hello
When seeing the announcement messages ingame, I came to think about something I made a while back.
How about adding some automessages in the gamelobby of dota?
Purpose: It will be useful for newer players, aswell as for everyone else! Although most of the messages are aimed at newer players, I think that everyone can pick up something now and then.

A excerpt:
"- Landing all of your spells in a teamfight is crucial. Running back to fountain with mana means that you haven’t unleashed all of your hero’s potential!"
"- Carrying tp-scrolls is very useful. It lets you move around the map freely; you can avoid ganks, defend a tower, go back to fountain to heal etc"

I personally did set the intervals at around 45s to 1 min, to avoid the feeling of spam. It worked out great.

There are of course room for improvement in terms of the quality of the messages. Feel free to post suggestions!

[Fangorn]

I personally did set the intervals at around 45s to 1 min, to avoid the feeling of spam.

- The messages needs to be marked, e.g. with a color, a "[", capital letters (DotA-TIP) etc.
- The messages shouldn't be too long
- The messages shouldn't interval too often. I'd think 1 minute would be fine

[Chantry]

@fanghorn who is the target audience? Te thing you're saying is basically the same as the '-tips' command and every game it says to use it for help... I've seen like 3/4 pepple use it ever. Imo.

[Fangorn]

- Landing all of your spells in a teamfight is crucial. Running back to fountain with mana means that you haven’t unleashed all of your hero’s potential!"
"- Carrying tp-scrolls is very useful. It lets you move around the map freely; you can avoid ganks, defend a tower, go back to fountain to heal etc"

Tell me how this is similar to the -tips command (which is a command used for each specific hero)
You should start to read more indepth before you ask questions that are already clearified

[Fangorn]

Who's this gimp anyway? No contribution whatsoever, only comments to create a bad environment. One of those revengeful elosnipers perhaps?
@ mods: delete this users posts, and ban him from this topic please

[Chantry]

Unlikely to happen and incase you're wondering i have 400 more elo than you lul.
For the record, i contributed and basically said your suggestion was bad, if you cant take criticism then stop posting.
Also the word is vengeful not revengeful gosh.

[Fangorn]

I don't even know who you are, and frankly, I do not care. Your comments are made to pollute this topic, not to contribute.
Revengeful is a word btw
@ mods, please delete this gimps posts, and ban him from this topic. Also delete my last replies to this, thanks

[Chantry]

Mods aren't your personal gestapo so settle down, you're giving as good as you get so don't cry wolf.

P.s. vengeful was the proper word for the elo sniper referance earlier not revengeful, admit when you're wrong this isn't grade 4 english.

[Haunt]

@Chantry even if you don't think it's a good idea, you don't have to be so hostile. Also, you should know that not everyone here speak English as their mothers tongue, so it's completely OK to make words like that. Everyone know what he meant by those.

So, please stop this trash talking and minor flaming, it's not nice at all.

About the idea itself: I kinda like it. However, I think that people who would benefit from those tips/hints, aren't that good in game or in English to understand them. Therefor, it's not worth the effort to implement.

[Fangorn]

I suppose he meant vengeful, not vengful. Revengeful is indeed a word, such a pointless argue.


Yeah, there are some people that aren't that good in english, more spesifically eastern-europeans. I still think it's worth a shot though

[uakf.b]

If you want to come up with a list of tips then go for it, and from there we can add some kind of tips system to complement the existing DotA hero-specific tips (maybe type !tips to enable in lobby / game); but otherwise probably not happening.

[Fangorn]

Sure, here's the first part:

- Landing all of your spells in a teamfight is crucial. If you are Dazzle, this means that you do ulti to initiate, spam heal and grave, and poison whenever you can. Running back to fountain with mana means you haven’t unleashed all of your hero’s potential.
- Try to avoid running around with orange or red hp. If you randomly encounter an enemy hero, this usually gets you killed. If you haven’t got any consumables (salve, tango) left, tp back to fountain.
- Carrying tp-scrolls is very useful. It lets you move around the map freely; you can avoid ganks, defend a tower, go back to fountain to heal etc. Tp scroll is probably the most underrated item in pubgames.
- Stating that “this hero sucks”, means that you haven’t fully understood the entire hero’s potential. Every hero has its strengths and weaknesses. If there are specific heroes you struggle with, a good place to start would be playdota.com->guides.
- DotA is a team game. If you are a rookie, you should listen to other more experienced teammates. If an ally made a mistake last fight, that got you killed, don’t “revenge” it by not helping him in next fight. That would mean a certain loss to you and your team.
- “Solo mid, or I leave” – this is probably the lamest comments around. Leaving a game will get you banned. If you want mid, you should start by asking nicely – “let me solo mid pls”. If someone is already middle, go to a sidelane.
- Different heroes have different needs. Lion doesn’t need that much of farm to be effective, he can solokill an enemy with his stun, voodoo and ulti. Spectre is a totally different hero; she needs a lot of farm and preferably lategame to be effective. This is because of her set of skills.
- Boots&tango is never a good idea for start items. This is because it leaves you very fragile; you get no stats from boots, only movement speed. Quelling blade and branches is usually a better choice.

One could set the interval to 1.30 or even 2 minutes, and see how that works out

[Chantry]

If you actually want this man your comments need to be much more broad... Why would there be one about dazzle lol.

[EdgeOfChaos]

It would be annoying for people who already know it and most people probably don't read the automessages from bots (I certainly don't). I'd say it's unnecessary.

[Fangorn]

Such overwhelming positivity!
Based on what I see in the gamelobbies, alot of people take their time to communicate.

and most people probably don't read the automessages from bots

Are you saying there has been a similar system with automessages before? - with tips to the game? I have only seen [ANNOUNCEMENT] this far.