Some bitching about "sat or obs"

[Lynx]

I'd prefer it if builders seed if I am Titan, easy access to experience.

[FollowingPath]

Yes, maybe two of the same builders is not very nice to have, but we clearly are having too many golders

I don't see your point here. There's only 5 "golders" in the game (out of 17 builders total) who don't need to make a lumberbase, and two of those are Goblin and Magnataur who can feed quite a lot by seeding their worker(s). In my opinion, Nature and Radioactive are more responsible for reducing feed on the map than "golders".

[Remixer]

Yes, maybe two of the same builders is not very nice to have, but we clearly are having too many golders

I don't see your point here. There's only 5 "golders" in the game (out of 17 builders total) who don't need to make a lumberbase, and two of those are Goblin and Magnataur who can feed quite a lot by seeding their worker(s). In my opinion, Nature and Radioactive are more responsible for reducing feed on the map than "golders".

But the truth is that in the current map getting feed from lumber bases is extremely hard, as they get denied all the way apart from the walls surrounding them. This practically makes semi-golders such as Tauren or Faerie golders just as well, and most of the times I see them being played as golders rather than basers.

[Burn]

It isn't about the full deny lumber bases that prevent feed, it's about non-nukable or hard to nuke lumber bases.

With more lumber basers,there will be less non-nukable lumber bases*.

EDIT: *More nukable lumber bases.

-Burn

[FollowingPath]

@Remixer There's plenty of room on the map for all the builders to have un-nukable lumber bases that can be denied, yet people still build them in nukable areas. It's also very easy for a demonologist and a magnatur to follow Titan around the map and trap him in every lumberbase, but people don't do it.
Fact is, due to the format that ID is built around, getting feed as Titan is entirely based on builder fuck-ups in some way, shape, or form. There's plenty of things that can be changed to balance this as much as possible (make all lumberbases require effort to nukeproof, for example) and they take priority over having 2 less golders in every game.

[Remixer]

Well we're completely off topic here now so shall we get back to the original topic?

I don't understand why the two players have to go Obs if they don't get satyr. Even if I wanted one certain builder and some one else wants it too, the longer it takes the more it becomes about "not letting the other player have it" and thus I think it would be much smarter if they it randomly selected the satyr between those two and picked a random builder for the other guy, one solution, that way tehre is at least 1 more builder present, even if the one who got random left.

[pep]

sat or obs is just a chicken game now, fucking betas who chicken out lolling at their lives rn. Also up is a good mode but it became worse with the versions and neco prob now only playing minecraft ur all fucked. gg

[Haunt]

I doubt @Neco even reads this shit, too busy with minecraft.

We should revert back to 3009 lol

[Lynx]

Relevant:
Subject: Island Defense Feedback Survey - Neco Read

There's no point reading these threads when they're posted here because they just devolve into ridiculous drama.

I appreciate what you're trying to do, and I'm glad to see someone else passionate about the game, but the community here has turned into a disgusting mess.

Contact me in PM or on Discord if you want a meaningful conversation.

Neco does need to up his communication game; he doesn't reply to PMs.

We shouldn't revert to 3.0.9, however if Neco feels burnt out he should consider handing over the torch.

[FollowingPath]

Neco does need to up his communication game; he doesn't reply to PMs.

Huh? Granted I don't send Neco PMs every day, but the times I have I've recieved a response pretty quickly.

[Lynx]

Huh? Granted I don't send Neco PMs every day, but the times I have I've recieved a response pretty quickly.

I guess it's just me then.

Sent: Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:39 am
Sent: Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:33 pm
Sent: Sat May 07, 2016 2:05 am
Sent: Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:48 am
Sent: Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:08 pm
Sent: Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:16 pm

All of my PM conversations with Neco in 2016, one conversation has got a reply from him.

[Neco]

You've proven yourself time and time again to not be someone worth talking to .

[Stealer]

You've proven yourself time and time again to not be someone worth talking to .

Oh? That why you ignore me too?

[Lynx]

Disagreement -> not worth talking to. /s

[Neco]

You've proven yourself time and time again to not be someone worth talking to .

Oh? That why you ignore me too?

The only message I have from you that I haven't replied to is about anti-maphack... Do you still want me to look into that?

Disagreement -> not worth talking to. /s

Yeah sure, let's call it a "disagreement". Your childish behaviour has just gotten to the point where I no longer care about your contributions. Going to go back to ignoring you now!


On-topic: This is simply a bug in UP and should be fixed.