make delay on 17 and clog

[artmas]

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(31:14 / Allied) artmas: no mutant
(31:17 / Allied) DON_KILLUMINATI: we need build delay for 17
(31:22 / Allied) Bugatti_Veyron: lol
(31:27 / Allied) Bugatti_Veyron: we sholud have sent
(31:31 / Allied) Bugatti_Veyron: why didnt we send actually
(31:36 / Allied) Bugatti_Veyron: im so zoned out
(31:39 / Allied) Patarinsky: no idea
(31:41 / Allied) Bugatti_Veyron: ROFL
(31:42 / All) RadiantCrystal: lol, do I guess it correctly?
(31:53 / All) DON_KILLUMINATI: what?
(32:23 / Allied) DON_KILLUMINATI: keep hydra tariq
(32:26 / Allied) DON_KILLUMINATI: it's leak slowly
(32:26 / All) RadiantCrystal: cant say right now or else I may be blamed for ghosting or some shit
(32:27 / Allied) tariq.td: ok
(32:27 / All) RadiantCrystal: lol
(32:43 / All) RadiantCrystal: although I wisped no one

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lihl16o

if they dont ban

i complain my ban 2days yesterday

[Don_Killuminati]

There was only 80-90 golds delay on 2/3 players. The status on lvl 17 was 1 v 1 heal and we had stomp.

I said to make delay to leak more slowly but not for clog since it was only about t1 on front , and i also build siege when i see no leak on 13, so was 17 race.

U can not compare with your game, since u won a race 4v0 heal with 4heal for stomp vs 0heal for wave, and some delay was 2x tree of times frontlane.

[artmas]

thats called clog

u r team is say : we need delay 17

and make delay,and clog

and,we have 3heal

[Don_Killuminati]

Ahahaha artmas, it was 1heal vs 1heal and we had stomp, go check replay plz mate.

[KeeRo]

I saw the replay, and I did not see anything illegal. all had high value with units as hydra revenant and ygg / hades
for me all is good, @healbycolor @greatbeyond what u think

[HealByColor]

This seems like a normal game to me.

[Psyclone]

Just proves me: You have no consistent definition of the clog rule. You ban certain people for 2 days while you don't others - for the exactly identical issue. That's disenchanting.

[Don_Killuminati]

Since moderators should have enough knowledge about LTD to be lihl mods , i think they are able to judge when a team stole a win cuz of clog.
I advice you to check the replay, and as you can see, it was a race 1v1 heal and our team had stomp.
In your case, i didn't check the replay, but i spoke with Wolke and he said to me that it was a race 4v0heal and the team with 4heals had stomp.
So please , you can not compare a race with 1v1 heal with 80g delay ,with a game 4v0 heal with 2x tree of times delay , it's a disproportionate.

[artmas]

is 100% clog

80value delay is ok?

r u kidding me? zzz

important is u leak 54leak and we 23leak to king

and we fast die

cuz u delay so much and dont attack demon

is 100% clog

[Krayyzie]

Quite hard to decide whetever this should go under that or not, no, this game can not be compared to the other clog game.

But the fact that, Don calls to tariq early, telling him to keep hydra because it leaks slow, rather than rr to actually try to hold 17, and then add to that that there were delays also made just to make you die slower, why not race it fair? why not rr from ONLY hydra if you want to try to hold 17? Hydra is a good tank if you get some siege with it, but instead you just building full to leak slow, and that also means leak More, which is one of he parts needed to clog...

Delays were very unnessesary...

[V1rus]

there will never be a satisfying black/what rule about clog.
it has to be on descretion of the moderators.

if you argue like: 4:0 heal with stomp and leaking 90+ vs 30 units (and writing: we need huge clog to win this in ally chat) is *quote* *excatly the same* as 1v1 heal with leaking 20ish vs 50ish units.... than its impossible for the mods to do *fair* judgements.

> plz try to think about such *clog/delay cases* a little more in the view of a third person and dont just generalise everything.
> just dont use clog/delay on purpose and especially not as the only way out to win a *lost* game because than its clear glitch abuse

thanks for your consideration.

greetings
v1rus

[Don_Killuminati]

Kraazie, we tough it was a race 15 till lvl 13, so even if tariq rr into mutant, he had no way to hold his lane with less than 100inc. I said to him to keeping hydra not to clog but to slow leak : clog is when units stucks in dg and mid avenue, and then ass to that it was 3s so less creeps so less stucks.
It's not a new strat in lihl and i don't know we stilling arguing here about it since it's happend really often.

V1rus , the funny thing is you did one of the largest clog in 3s with 96leaks : split army , hydra delay and building shit, when u had archer bears and it was 3v0 heal . You didn't even get punished for that and it was clearly a glich abuse .

[V1rus]

possible. I think i remember. it wasnt my call the clog for sure doe... anyway if you find replay, feel free to post it and gladly take my ban like a man... without bitching about it.

[Don_Killuminati]

No way man, i just wanted to remind you that you even used that glich abused in the past ;P

[Krayyzie]

Im not saying you should be banned, as you say urself ,this is a common play in most games now, Im just saying its part of the problem.
To ban you guys ,the mods will be forced to say they´re actually gonna get rid of clog and be more harsh about abuses and punish it way harder. And that notice should come before starting to hand out bans.
Hopefully that will happen soon