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Postby Ultrasonic » Thu May 21, 2015 1:17 pm

Can morph have a better escape ability? plz :o cus if he gets stuck in seed he is insta kill unless tit is a complete nutjob, Can it be that slam should be insta available? just my opinion pls dont hate :(
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Postby Ultrasonic » Thu May 21, 2015 1:21 pm

uhm i lagged... so i accidentally posted two of this im srry please remove one post of this double im sorry
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Postby Burn » Thu May 21, 2015 2:03 pm

Agreed. Then nerf his towers are little, then he'll be A-OK.

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Postby Neco » Thu May 21, 2015 10:59 pm

Burn wrote:Agreed. Then nerf his towers are little, then he'll be A-OK.

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Actually already are below average: http://id.rory.io/stats/.
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Postby Merex » Thu May 21, 2015 11:19 pm

I actually like this idea, or give him a default stun.
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Postby Neco » Fri May 22, 2015 12:31 am

Slam isn't going to stop you from getting stuck in a seed though.
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Postby TooNoobForU » Fri May 22, 2015 12:47 am

can slam push titan away? lol cause slam is shit w/ punish around
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Postby Burn » Fri May 22, 2015 1:02 am

Um, there is no way that Morphling Super towers are weaker than Makrura Super towers.

Although I don't have fancy numbers or a chart, here is my DPS chart for non-gold supers only (not including Range)

Morphling > Draenei (with 10g orb) > Tauren > Faerie (infinite mana) > Pirate > Ogre/Troll > Nature > Dryad > Goblin > Gnoll > Radioactive > Murloc > Makrura

Tested in-game against a real titan!

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Postby Neco » Fri May 22, 2015 1:11 am

Here are the relevant raw stats if you have any doubts:

Morphling - Super Pulse Tower
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Makrura - Enlarged Tidal Guardian
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EDIT: Fixed a bug on the site where calculations used the -1 version of the attack for calculations. Still doesn't change the ratio between races though.
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Postby Burn » Fri May 22, 2015 1:33 am

Should be something about backswing? Because I know for a fact that Makrura has the weakest super towers in the game (disregarding range).

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Postby Neco » Fri May 22, 2015 1:35 am

Burn wrote:Should be something about backswing? Because I know for a fact that Makrura has the weakest super towers in the game (disregarding range).

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Backswing is purely for animation (unless it's duration is greater than the attack speed of the tower which it isn't in this case).

EDIT: Here's a link to the research done on this
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Postby Burn » Fri May 22, 2015 1:41 am

I can post a replay showing Morphling super towers having around 2x the damage of super Makrura towers. This is tested in-game, confirmed, with no theory involved.

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Postby Ultrasonic » Fri May 22, 2015 2:10 am

How about something like a slam that cant be dispelled :)
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Postby Neco » Fri May 22, 2015 2:35 am

Ultrasonic wrote:How about something like a slam that cant be dispelled :)
This still won't change your case where Morphling gets stuck in a seed, although the idea is interesting.
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Postby Ultrasonic » Fri May 22, 2015 2:43 am

put together of what tnfu that slam that knockbacks and slow that cant be dispelled
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