banned for "maphack"

[KidTwist]

Your Warcraft III username: wikasick
Realm/Gateway: useast battle.net
Why are you banned: at 22 minutes or so i am accused of maphacking when i kill Winterwyvern.
Why you should be unbanned:
when wyvern ganked me and killed my aegis, he used his arctic burn, so i knew it was on CD while i was chasing him at first but when i didn't catch up with him after about 10 seconds i knew he'd have gone into woods, probably left because it's harder for me to follow that way if u watch at 23:25 replay time u can see me indecisive about where to go, moving back and forth i blink in i land pretty close to WW but that's not because i targeted the hero in fog it's cuz it's one of the very few "gaps" in the trees u can actually blink to. Some luck involved, some skill, but no maphack. I have never had an incident like this before and i am an honest player, please unban me.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5506140

[Hatedmaru]

@KidTwist - https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54318

Any comments on your actions?

@Nabo. @I3omb

My review is on https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=54318

[I3omb]

I felt the way he blinked into the trees quite accurately followed by an accurate net was blatant mh to me. @Hyorinmaru. take a look at the replay as well unless I missed something when I went over it for the confirmation.

[nabo.]

when wyvern ganked me and killed my aegis, he used his arctic burn, so i knew it was on CD while i was chasing him at first but when i didn't catch up with him after about 10 seconds i knew he'd have gone into woods, ... u can see me indecisive about where to go

Yes meepo is bit faster and you had blink, still he had a good long time to run away from you while you were dead. Guessing that he ran towards left top instead of right or left bottom or still running straight... hmmmmmmmm you also used one meepo to net one place. If I was you looking for a hero around tat area, I would net all around me. Previously when we spoke, you told me you were searching for him poofing everywhere. I dont see you doing tat, but rather being accurate. You also told me you saw him flying, but you never had the vision to see him fly anywhere.

[KidTwist]

If I was you looking for a hero around tat area, I would net all around me.
Are you able to check the buttons i was clicking? if so you could see that i was trying to net and poof all around, i lost control some time during the tab+f also me getting lucky on poofs and a net doesnt mean i maphack, as for the troll situation you talked about that is totally false what you said. You said i had little reason to leave rosh which is incorrect, i had every reason to stop roshing. Also i am not stupid i know that winterwyvern will not take an obvious path and i am aware of what WW can do so i assumed he had went into the trees. i have played on ent for 3 years now and never had any problems like this before, i seriously dont maphack.

[KidTwist]

okay let me explain to you my side now, you ready?
Basically some kid says he going to report me and also mentions he is very close with an admin = Nabo.
My maphack request being way below on the list happens to be nabos number 1 priority and within maybe 1 hour or so i get banned for 1 year. Now i was getting private messages in wc3 which i should have screenshotted by 3 different people all spamming me saying, "nabo is reviewing the request on you your gonna get banned ahahhaah we told him to ban you looool" Moments after they said that i did indeed get banned. Obviously little time put into the decision made and also you guys ignored all the other requests and went straight to dealing with mine. After that i post an appeal and i see that nabo refers the admins to check the appeal, coincidence? i think not! Nabo has planted two of his admin buddies to check my appeal and help him out to ensure i get banned. Me and nabo have had poor history and has been going on for almost 2 years now, he straight up dislikes me. If this isnt favoritism i dont know what to call it but you guys full out cheated the entire system and you know it. I will not try to further explain myself on how i dont maphack because it is pointless, nabo will get all of his mod friends to team up against me and i will lose. Thanks for abusing your power. Please do not remove this post and do comment on it because i would like to hear a response, deleting the post will only show that i am right, i do not mean to be offensive by this in a way you might think but this is my honest opinion and so i shared it.

[Knight-Delta]

Admins and moderators do not ban with no reason + They do not just ban because someone close to them was the one that reported them .
Nabo. checked the request maybe because his friend told him to check it out or because he just felt like it but that does not mean he will be unfair in any way .
People who report mh always say to the guy that they reported that he's gona get banned so on so forth they just cant help it.
The ban request is moved to awaiting admin confirmation if he was holding a grudge on u he would just probably move it to processed and be done with it.

and to end up my boring reply : Admins and mods ignore their emotions and feelings towards someone when processing a ban request wither that person is a friend or a person he/she hates .

[Masamune]

There are many different types of ban requests. For example, Nabo handles the Dota department, Art)y with LTD while BeepBoopBeep/Matdas handles LTD. Not every admin is designated to handle every request but they certainly can do it too. You need to understand that we are human beings and we are always pressed for time. We are conditioned to look at recent events/requests first rather than previous ones.

People who report do not have "admin favortism". This is far from abuse - please define what abuse is in your point of view? They looked at yours because they had to, not because they needed to. Also, the activity of the topic draws attention. You broke a cardinal rule and you were banned for it. Frankly, I'm inclined to side with Nabo./Hyo here because their logic is sound. NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE RIGHT but because it makes more sense than yours.

What I view here: you're using Nabo and "his friends" as a pretext to stir up drama here because your argument about why you don't mh is very poorly constructed. And you proved your true intentions by attempting to degrade him by stating he favors his friends requests rather than others. No one will delete your claim and if you are so 'disgusted' by Nabo's actions, make a complaint rather than making an appeal. The appeal/request section is a tribunal where we decide whether you are to be banned or not - after reasoning. It is not an area where you and your friend "fck_gooks" call him derogatory terms.

[KidTwist]

Thank you for your response and i did not mean to degrade anyone, on top of that who in the world is fck_gooks? i have no such friend. I hope you realize why i am so upset as to posting that. I play dota everyday on ENT for about 3 years now and suddenly i get banned for maphack which i do not do and its for 1 year. I am super frustrated because i will not be able to play dota anymore and so please dont blame me im sure you guys could understand.

[Frank]

Im gona give my 2 cents about the ww incident.

Meepo dies with aegis. WW has like a 3sec headstart going towards his base. Meepo respawns walks a bit and blinks south to try and catchup. Now both players i believe know that blink cd isnt that long and that if ww keeps walking towards he knows he is dead within the next blink. I believe meepo is aware that ww knows this therefore he tries and to check if indeed ww is gona try to juke him in the woods. I would have taken the same path in the trees. Although i probably would have kept going towards my base instead of north. Now we reach the argument of "Netting all around him to scout ww". I examined meepos micro and hes not the caliber of player to have that fast of micromanagment. You can call it maphack but I see it as a lucky net. Again the reason he didnt net all around him is that cause his micro is slow not beacuase he knew his position beforehand. Meepos that can spam nets in different directions as fast as nabo assumes are players who can poof all 4 meepos b4 blinking with main meepo. He always blinked first then poofed his meepos.

I think it was a case of the meepo player thinking "Where would i go if i was trying to escape me" scenario and a bit of luck on that first net. I also need to say that i do know him personally and have played pubs and ihs with him. Never have i suspected him of mh b4. I could also be completely wrong and he might have downloaded mh recently and I am probably giving him the benefit of the doubt.

If i were mod i would find at least 1 more replay with such questionable plays b4 banning him. Although i can see how a mod with enough mh banning experience would ban him for that play alone. To me its a 50/50 call.

[KidTwist]

Thank you for your thoughts about the incident frank, i do also realize how mods can say they think that is a mh play but i do strongly suggest mods to look at other plays or any other games i have had to try getting to the bottom of this, 1 lucky play cannot be the end of dota for a year, please look further into this.

[nabo.]

@Frank

ww could have gone anywhere + Moving based on ww, blinking to the right forest spot + right direction (yes there are quite a few), netting the right spot...could be luck, but I doubt it.

@kidtwist

Firstly, accusations about me being biased will get you no where.

Secondly, you are solely banned based on what we have seen. It is not 100% mh, but a strong enough evidence for me.

Thirdly, I have told you numerous times that you can give me other replays to review on. Nothing has come up yet. I will check more replays when I am free and you can give me w/e replays you find. You could be using mh on one game and no mh on another. But, lets see what we find.

Stop making me repeat.

[KidTwist]

@nabo.
Yes WW could have gone anywhere but based on the game i played with him right before that one i realized he wasnt a total noob. I knew he would not be dumb enough to go anywhere that i could easily get to or expect and so i repeatedly tried blinking into trees but i couldnt because there are only few places in trees where u can actually blink, once i got the blink in on trees after trying it was just luck that i was nearby him. I am also curious to know whether i can show you replays from other games besides that one for proof? And sorry for making accusations i just wanted a response to that because of all the private messages i was getting in warcraft, 3 different people were telling me exactly what was going to happen and it did happen so i wanted to know, im just upset.

[nabo.]

-Any place...u cannot get into easily?
-ww can fly anywhere.
-Quite a few places you can blink into.
-Why couldnt ww go bottom left or right side of the map or continue straight to base? He did have a big lead.
-I told you, you can give me other replays besides the one in question.
-w/e priv messages you get, i dont give a dam. All they could tell you was that you would be banned if what you did indicated mh or not. (banned or not) Nothing else.

[corey2013]

Just in the last few days ive played with this guy a few times and ive seen him get ganked and make many mistakes. Personally i know he doesnt maphack he just got lucky in this game. Just a few weeks ago someone tried to get him banned for maphack and it was denied, hes just a really good geo.