suggestion for LTD 2vs2

[KeeRo]

What do you think about another bot with 2vs2 ltd? I think it might be a fun thing, and that could be appreciated by the players.

[Hutzu]

I actually like the idea. In LIHL we play as Red+Teal vs Yellow+Green. Dunno if the pubs would prefer Red+Blue (if they want to cross/aura share) over Red+Teal formation.

[eldryan]

just allow them to switch spots, I don't see it as being exclusively red/blue red/teal.

[KeeRo]

I think it would be better if they were red / teal and yellow / green as lihl

[Krumme]

why doesn't anyone !votestart on 1100+ bot? works just like a 2v2 bot - sure if you aren't under 1100 you can't do 2v2 but if you are under 1100 elo I don't think 2v2 is fitting for you as it depends much more on the individual than 4v4 - just my thoughts on the subject as I don't think we need another dead bot opened

[Diablo_]

I don't think this will be popular (aka it will never be played). Even in LIHL half the players dislike 2vs2 and it won't be any different for other players (or even less since they never play 2s or 3s). Another problem is the team building .. 2vs2 with one random stranger will often be no fun I fear and whenever a noob joins people will leave. 1vs1 + 4vs4 + 4vs4 1100+ is enough imo, no need to split up players even more.

[nabo.]

We already have lihl, 1100+, 4v4, 1v1 ltd, and ltd euro bots.

I wouldnt mind playing 2v2 no cross bot (close certain slots, so peeps cant cross: one lane per person).

Yes, this may split the ltd populatiion. Maybe private hosting is enough for 2v2? I think the whole purpose of 1v1 when suggested, was to measure skill between two peeps, no?

Since 2v2 requires bit more knowledge and skill of the game, maybe just !votestart on 1100+ bot is enough as mentioned.

Popularity is unknown and questionable. We wont know until we try.

[SLSGuennter]

I agree with diablo and dont think, the community should get splitted more, but it may be a good decision, to start 2s on the 1100+ bot more often. Most guys there know each other and it shouldnt be a problem for them to play together, since they know the skills of the other.

[KeeRo]

you are right but, as you say would be enough to use !votestart, there is always someone who says no and that he would like to wait, to the detriment of the other players (sometimes letting out other players from the game).

I asked some players what they thought about it and said they would be great.

maybe I'm wrong but I think the clan ent has the highest number of players on LTD and this, in my opinion,do a trial period.

[SLSGuennter]

indeed it got the highest playercount, but maybe still not enough for such a lot of bots.
though i would play it definetly, but dont know (and kinda dont think so) if there are enough guys for it, since even in lihl a lot of people kinda hate it
trial-period seems legit for me, though i dont know, how much work it is, to get this going and if its worth this ...

[ButtChugTheWine]

I vote for a trial period of this, suggesting these rules:
- Slots are Red/Blue and Yellow/Orange
- Crossing shall be allowed by default
- Red has the option of calling No Crossing in the lobby, which must be reiterated right after the mode is chosen
- Violation of called No Crossing shall be a 2 day ban for first offense, 5+ days for 2nd/more
- Map should be Beta (open to Mega 4.1, but heroes with crosses presents more variety of gameplay)
- Default Mode should be the usual, whether the map is Beta or Mega
- Mercing should be forbidden

I know many of you like the lihl rules, but many more people (myself shamelessly included) like being able to cross. I think allowing crosses will result in more players and a greater chance of success. Allowing red to call "No Crossing" will allow you lihl fans to have games you like, too. I think a 2v2 bot in this form could bring about more people joining as a team than it would people getting a random partner, which would be a nice, skill-based competitive environment. I have a feeling more of you would like the map to be mega and not beta, which I'd be cool with either. After all, more people do play mega than beta.

All in all, this is a great recommendation. Since I've been watching it, we've had more LTD games per week than anything else: https://entgaming.net/statsbot.php?order=count

Thanks so much for this awesome idea! I move that this be taken seriously.

[eldryan]

We already have lihl, 1100+, 4v4, 1v1 ltd, and ltd euro bots.

I wouldnt mind playing 2v2 no cross bot (close certain slots, so peeps cant cross: one lane per person).

Yes, this may split the ltd populatiion. Maybe private hosting is enough for 2v2? I think the whole purpose of 1v1 when suggested, was to measure skill between two peeps, no?

Since 2v2 requires bit more knowledge and skill of the game, maybe just !votestart on 1100+ bot is enough as mentioned.

Popularity is unknown and questionable. We wont know until we try.

you forgot 3.5 beta bot. why not remove the euro bot and make an asia bot

[SLSGuennter]

@buttchugthewine
If it goes like this, it may be a good idea, that its red/teal and yellow/green if there is the decision to play non-cross. Then there wont be the possibilty to still cross, while its not allowed.

[supersexyy]

I don't think this will take off. Just seems like an in between bot that no one will join.

[KeeRo]

let me know when the bot will work! although I think the best way would be 4.1 mega