AP- AUTOBAL for EU?

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AP- AUTOBAL for EU?

Postby ForsakeMe » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:50 am

Would be great if you will make A-Ball for EU bots with elo requirments at least 1250-1300 and win rate 50%+. Cuz no defence against those guys who cannot play dota, when they've joined the game its kinda their first time playin dota. Their first an item build is an javelin, even without boots and they are keep dying by creeps . For instance: You've come home after a hard-work day and then you have been meet those guys in a game, it is such annoying thing. Let them play among themselfs, and separate us of them. Thank You
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Re: AP- AUTOBAL for EU?

Postby Aghnaar » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:26 am

Why win rate would matter? Correct me if I'm wrong, but someone that has high elo with like 30% win rate, means that hes actually way more skilled than someone with same elo and win ratio 90%... For example, i consider this to be one of the best accounts on ent. Win ratio 40% and 1500 elo in only 90 games. Beat this if u can ;)
https://entgaming.net/openstats/dota/?u=woahh
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Re: AP- AUTOBAL for EU?

Postby ForsakeMe » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:28 am

i had kinda 1600 elo in 90-100 games with wr close to 80% and look i dont wanna lose it, therfore, i would try win each game 100% as a team player. im saying this, cuz this guy woahh doesnt care about wins,loses. He just playing his own, he doesnt have a stimul to win, for instance: he could just farm whole game and dont give a damn about a team play, win. If u say him lets push or smth else, he would answer you i'm playing for fun, hop off me nerd..... How to play with these guys? If player has normal win rate, he would try to win a game, cuz he doesnt wanna lose his wr % . It's smth like a reputation
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Re: AP- AUTOBAL for EU?

Postby Aghnaar » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:01 am

Not rly. In the case of woahh, he plays always vs stacks, thats why he loses so many games. He plays for like 25 elo, so in defeats he will miss only 5. His skill lvl is too high, hes a freaking nightmare to face mid :lol:

I have seen ppl with 80% win rates, decent kd and high elo that don't even know the basics of dota, for the simple reason that they're deadweight stackers that play for 5 elo per game and ks in every opportunity only to get carried from others. For example if u are medusa or spec and a guy like that shows up in ur team, he will proly buy dagon 5 and lothars on his support, ks everything and then cry about u being unable to carry his noob ass. Games are full of shitty players like that, so again, i think that win % prequisite wouldn't help the case.
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Re: AP- AUTOBAL for EU?

Postby ForsakeMe » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:12 am

well, man. its your position about that and i respect it. But let me argue my point bout this. If my teamtes can farm dagon 5 lvl and make over 20 kills, i will be very happy. It is much better than teamates with 0-20 and dying by creeps. Lets look more deeply why these guys make dagon 5 lvl, actually they do not ks, cuz his teamtes cannot kill anyone, its really true). In perdomantly 80% cuz your teamtes really sux and cant do shit and you getting nervous. I've never seen that someone ks me so much times, usually my teamtes hard feed and dont help to team. If wud be 5 normal players in a 1 team who wanna win, in 80% nobody wud make ks you. Cuz you got a good atmosphere to play dota and have enjoy.

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Re: AP- AUTOBAL for EU?

Postby -lothlorien » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:31 am

Now you are taking this too far, forsake.
I am sure if I checked your games it's not like every second one is with only feeders having 20+ deaths :P
Of course its better to have someone with dagon 5 and kills than a feeder. It's better having an anti mage with dagger who uses it to escape all kinds of dangers (but doesn't kill either) than him feeding :P
It's better to be healthy than ill...and so on :D

But let's get real.. a person who plays against stacks and doesn't give a damn about stats is much more fun to play with in so many ways. These kind of persons tend not to flame (unnecessary :D ) and my experience showed me that they are in most cases much better team players...causing the win by playing unselfish.


besides,imagine there is a person with a decent kdr, win/lose rate and an elo of 1250. This person loses two games (which is..natural due to dota's nature of one team losing :P ) ..s/he wouldn't be able to play another auto balance game, because of your recommended restrictions.

Apart these numbers just do not say enough. (In relation with each other they do tho). I know accounst where people have 200 more won games and an elo of merely 1100... and I know players with a 950-1050 elo and 300 more lost games. Guess who plays better? Which one would you prefer on your team.

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Re: AP- AUTOBAL for EU?

Postby ForsakeMe » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:49 pm

Get 1250 elo as i suppose not so hard, besides, he could play just regular ap-mode as he usual do, untill again would reach 1250+. i get you. The key to make this restriction is a motivation to win and play without any offenses. At least i would know that in my team not any newbie guys that playing first time, thats my point.

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Re: AP- AUTOBAL for EU?

Postby child » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:55 pm

Moved to suggestions

I find this highly unlikely though. While in principle it sounds like a good idea the fact is that abal games have not filled for almost a year now, like ever.

Ill let this run a couple days but it'll likely be archived after that due to many prior suggestions that did not come to fruition

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Re: AP- AUTOBAL for EU?

Postby ForsakeMe » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:30 am

look at this, man Image
how to win??

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Re: AP- AUTOBAL for EU?

Postby child » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:31 pm

no point in letting this run longer, not going to happen.

the games just dont fill - a-bal was an option for a long time and then it went dead for well over 2 months.

and i mean dead. i dont see it being successful again.


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