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Postby Stealer » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:52 am

Change it from being all Macros to be all non-(key binding or chat macros).

i.e a macro that says -cam 200, -debug off with the press of 2 buttons shouldn't be bannable but one that does tab d click repeatedly (det script) would still be because its not a chat ban.

If the chat macro breaks and acts as a non-chat macro (i.e. starts detting workers or something) the user would still be responsible and share the same penalty as if the macro had be intentionally programmed to do so.

Macros that act as key-bindings such as mapping alt-q to numpad7 should be explicitly defined as allowed. The wiki doesn't seem to state this but I know that arty has told me explicitly that a macro that binds alt-q to #7 and alt-w to #8 is legal. A key-binding macro must require equal-to or more buttons than the button sequence it replaces (aka must be 'semi-automatic'). The alt-q fits this definition because it takes 2 button presses to get 1 and once the alt button is pressed it is mapping 1 button (q) to 1 button (#7). Mapping #7 to alt-q would however be against the rules because it takes 1 press and gives 2.

Key binding macros may not simulate mouse clicks along with keyboard clicks, i.e a keybinding macro could bind 't' to 'right mouse button' but you couldn't bind 'alt-t' to 'd + left mouse button'.

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Re: [Rules] ID

Postby aRt)Y » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:24 am

Why should text macros be tolerated which even cause the user to be muted for spam?
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Re: [Rules] ID

Postby Stealer » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:10 pm

Well you haven't said anything about adding key binding macros explicitly.

About text macros, a user can easily spam via control-v if they want to they don't need a macro to type fast enough to get automatically muted or be an annoyance. I'm not saying spamming is allowed, just that you could easily ping spam or chat spam without one.
Plus how many text macro bans have occurred? The only recent ones that I remember are for people setting their camera at the beginning of the game which hardly is spam because they were going to type those lines anyways.

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Re: [Rules] ID

Postby aRt)Y » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:04 pm

Rules are not created based on quantity but "quality" aka how much they influence the game. Since deto, wall walk, ping and any other macro is ban-able, making specific expectations doesn't make sense.

I dont see the reason for risking users to use macros and expecting them not to make the same for deto or something else.
If you are lazy, replace the text with autohotkey or w7e program, too.
:*:cam::-cam 1502020202.3223215{enter}
w/e

Regarding hotkey remapping, I'll add a note.
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