[b]Your Warcraft III username: [Yak]
[b]Realm/Gateway:[Useast]
[b]Why are you banned:["AS-Abuse TID: 49092 (game ruining)"]
[b]Why you should be unbanned:[I'm not sure what game this was from, as it isn't listed when I pull up the search result of the name I am banned under in the ban list. However, I do remember a Legion TD game where another player and I were anti-stucking each other to try to catch leaks, he AS me early game and I AS'd him a little later and I remember him getting mad and thinking I was trying to do him wrong, although I was only trying to help him catch leaks but the delay messed it up a little. I don't understand a multiple day ban for me trying to help another player in the same way he helped me early game.Thanks for your time.]
Yak@useast
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Re: Yak@useast
@Law here its the link of your game. Please answer according to your actions.
https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49092
https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49092
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Re: Yak@useast
You can stop lying, ok?
30:28 <Yak> 0x11: Point order: ancestralspirit (X: 5792.21, Y: 5252.33, flags: 0x0040)
30:45 <Yak> 0x11: Point order: ancestralspirit (X: 5830.76, Y: 4046.63, flags: 0x0040)
Even the first one was obvious to be bad and without your ally's consent. The 2nd one was clear abuse with malicious intent, as the creeps passed by and you again stopped his towers from returning mid.
30:28 <Yak> 0x11: Point order: ancestralspirit (X: 5792.21, Y: 5252.33, flags: 0x0040)
30:45 <Yak> 0x11: Point order: ancestralspirit (X: 5830.76, Y: 4046.63, flags: 0x0040)
Even the first one was obvious to be bad and without your ally's consent. The 2nd one was clear abuse with malicious intent, as the creeps passed by and you again stopped his towers from returning mid.
Re: Yak@useast
Except I wasn't lying, mix of lag, server/game delay(the delay on LTD mega is well known and notorious) and being distracted by teammate's flaming causes stupid things to happen. As far as building on him lvl 17, he was clearly building in a way to grief, on several different occasions, you have the replay, I hope you looked at the whole situation and if so, you can see how HE(the guy who's word and complaint you took to heart enough to ban me) was clearly griefing, between him BLATANTLY stealing my kills(whatever u think I did or didn't do and for whatever reasons, the fact is, him blatantly and purposely STEALING my kills IS worse) and then later on him building in a way that leaks on purpose. I built on him lvl 17 because I didn't want him to make us lose, it is a known strategy that building with another player as merc is a way to clear tough lvls, however he built in a way to sabotage that strategy as well, again proving him to be motivated by selfishness and spite rather than myself who was motivated by the desire for the TEAM to win.
I like that your server's host many fun games and have good features, however I find it too often the case that the loudest complainer is the one who gets what he wants, too many people in your games talk about how they are gonna ban people for one thing or another and that they know admins or are admins or whatever they need to to get what they want through threatening the banhammer because people know that they very well could(case and point) get banned because the type of person to spend a whole game threatening to ban people(which kills the fun and ruins the game far more often than whatever the guy who reported me[who is of the population just described] claimed I did) is the same type who will take the time to go on the forum here and post their "grievances" in a way to get admin to listen when in reality they were a selfish sociopathic asshole who made the game(it is after, just a game...) un-fun for the rest of us who try to be team players for the good of everyone. The way the culture is in games hosted by ENT is that the assholes run things, and the rest of us have to either shut up and take it, or fight them back and get banned. A culture where getting banned (for I think 5-7 days is it? For what? Because someone who did worse things in the same game told you to? Hell, I can understand a day or two for not asking to build on him, sure, but a week? When I was trying to play a TEAM GAME with someone who didn't understand the concept and who blatantly intentionally stole my kills[whichever way u paint it, that aint a team player and that is worse than accidentally making his units miss getting bonus kills while trying to get him bonus kills because thats what a team player does{which I understand is what I'm banned for?}]) when the person who reported me clearly was more malevolent in his actions than I came close to, yet he hit the banhammer first, is the real problem you should be concerned with.
And even if you are on his side for some reason, at the end of the day even if we were to assume the worst intentions behind me in that game, I still don't hold a candle to that guy and his game ruining practices. Any unbiased viewing of the replay(the whole context, not just the parts the guy-who-complained-first-and-loudest wants you to see) will clearly support that. And my two brothers also play this game, I don't see why we should all be banned for a week based on what some jerk (who was a griefer himself) told you to do. I hope you guys reach a just and sensible conclusion for this misunderstanding, thanks for your time.
I like that your server's host many fun games and have good features, however I find it too often the case that the loudest complainer is the one who gets what he wants, too many people in your games talk about how they are gonna ban people for one thing or another and that they know admins or are admins or whatever they need to to get what they want through threatening the banhammer because people know that they very well could(case and point) get banned because the type of person to spend a whole game threatening to ban people(which kills the fun and ruins the game far more often than whatever the guy who reported me[who is of the population just described] claimed I did) is the same type who will take the time to go on the forum here and post their "grievances" in a way to get admin to listen when in reality they were a selfish sociopathic asshole who made the game(it is after, just a game...) un-fun for the rest of us who try to be team players for the good of everyone. The way the culture is in games hosted by ENT is that the assholes run things, and the rest of us have to either shut up and take it, or fight them back and get banned. A culture where getting banned (for I think 5-7 days is it? For what? Because someone who did worse things in the same game told you to? Hell, I can understand a day or two for not asking to build on him, sure, but a week? When I was trying to play a TEAM GAME with someone who didn't understand the concept and who blatantly intentionally stole my kills[whichever way u paint it, that aint a team player and that is worse than accidentally making his units miss getting bonus kills while trying to get him bonus kills because thats what a team player does{which I understand is what I'm banned for?}]) when the person who reported me clearly was more malevolent in his actions than I came close to, yet he hit the banhammer first, is the real problem you should be concerned with.
And even if you are on his side for some reason, at the end of the day even if we were to assume the worst intentions behind me in that game, I still don't hold a candle to that guy and his game ruining practices. Any unbiased viewing of the replay(the whole context, not just the parts the guy-who-complained-first-and-loudest wants you to see) will clearly support that. And my two brothers also play this game, I don't see why we should all be banned for a week based on what some jerk (who was a griefer himself) told you to do. I hope you guys reach a just and sensible conclusion for this misunderstanding, thanks for your time.
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Re: Yak@useast
Did you even bother reading the topic that was linked by Tedro32?
I bannd him as well. I saw what he did.
And I'm denying your appeal, because you lie. The first antistuck brought his Yggs back to middle but they were too late. Ok, this one can be argued about whether intentional or not. But the 2nd antistuck was when the Yggs were running towards the spawn-point again to return to the king. And you antistucked him again. This one is no delay, don't bullshit us. Clear abuse and malicious intent. Next time spare your own time writing such a long post and just read the linked topic instead and admit what you did.
Your ban expires in a day and 9 hours.
I bannd him as well. I saw what he did.
And I'm denying your appeal, because you lie. The first antistuck brought his Yggs back to middle but they were too late. Ok, this one can be argued about whether intentional or not. But the 2nd antistuck was when the Yggs were running towards the spawn-point again to return to the king. And you antistucked him again. This one is no delay, don't bullshit us. Clear abuse and malicious intent. Next time spare your own time writing such a long post and just read the linked topic instead and admit what you did.
Your ban expires in a day and 9 hours.
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