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[honto & Lord-assasino@Asia]

Postby AnotherWorld » Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:10 pm

Replay Link: : https://entgaming.net/replay/view_repla ... 710469.w3g
Game Name: Last Dota
Your Warcraft III Username: AnotherWorld
Violator's Warcraft III Username: HONTO & LORD-ASSASINO
Violated Rule(s): LORD-ASSASINO double mid early game + never answer + solo feed all the game long. No items sense etc...
HONTO for whining, + No Kicking Lord-Assasino + Whining / Insulting. Deserve bigger BAN than Troll.
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): Quite mid / 75%
Any further thoughts: Just ban all players not kicking that feeder & whining like HONTO.

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Re: [honto & Lord-assasino@Asia]

Postby aRt)Y » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:54 pm

@AnotherWorld Could you further specify the ingame time for "feeding" and where "never answer(ing)" the teammates has ruined the game?

Whining, no items sense and flaming (to certain degree) are no reasons for a ban. Please re-phrase your ban reasons.
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Re: [honto & Lord-assasino@Asia]

Postby AnotherWorld » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:02 pm

Hi Arty,
Thank you for your answer.
So, to specify, troll@asian, been told i go mid, he gone anyway without answering & being two with me mid = ruining.
It's a teamplay. Someone going mid as a troll, is somekind ruining the game, & more without answering anything. +playing badly getting killed non stop
I don't know the policy on forum about players forcing duo mid etc but we must listen eachother & i never go mid to an ally asking to be there alone.

Second point is that, i never threat or insult Honto. That guy maybe high flamed quite all game
Some parts :

31:59 [All] honto (Rooftrellen): stfu noob
32:02 Roshan has been slain by The Sentinel!
32:03 DieAndComplain (Mirana) [10-4] has acquired Aegis of the Immortal
32:05 [All] honto (Rooftrellen): you only complain NOW because youre losing
32:06 [All] honto (Rooftrellen): LOSING
32:10 [All] DieAndComplain (Mirana): ^
32:13 [All] AnotherWorld (Oracle): i ask since game started
32:17 [All] honto (Rooftrellen): nope
32:17 Lord-assasino (Jah'rakal) [0-7] was been killed by uwe_player (Dwarven) [6-7]. Assist: jana33 (Clinkz) [2-4]
32:19 [All] honto (Rooftrellen): liar, and noob
32:22 [All] honto (Rooftrellen): die, and suffer.

36:40 [All] honto (Rooftrellen): talk shit, try harder world
36:42 [All] honto (Rooftrellen): fuckin noob
36:44 Scourge bottom level 2 tower was destroyed by The Sentinel.
36:46 [All] honto (Rooftrellen): cry and make new accounts

37:09 [All] honto (Rooftrellen): you just say things like "try harder" then get raped
37:14 cunha (Traxex) [0-7] was been killed by DieAndComplain (Mirana) [14-4].
37:14 DieAndComplain (Mirana) [14-4] is dominating!
37:15 [All] honto (Rooftrellen): we seriously bent you over, you retard
37:21 [All] AnotherWorld (Oracle): 5 vs 3

I remember you banned already some guys for trash words in games.
This one needs at least a warning with 1/2 days ban.
I'll appreciate to show to most people to good behavior while playing. More than trolling duo mid & never wrote a word.

Thanks,
I leave to your appreciation.
I rarely report but, such a game kills your dota pleasure at all.

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Re: [honto & Lord-assasino@Asia]

Postby Yasuoka » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:41 pm

Troll's deaths as well as bannable actions according to ENT Rules page:

Griefing: Do not go away from keyboard for an excessive amount of time, especially without telling other players beforehand.

18:27 - Lord-Assassino is killed because he was overextended and got caught by multiple enemies. He then goes AFK.
A teamfight happens. AnotherWorld, Dota, Helmet all die. Upon respawn AnotherWorld checks -afk and calls a votekick on Lord-Assassino. Only two players vote yes, AnotherWorld himself and DieAndComplain.
(21:12 / Allied) AnotherWorld: -afk
(21:15 / Allied) AnotherWorld: !votekick lord
(21:17 / All) AnotherWorld: AFK
(21:33 / Allied) AnotherWorld: -afk
(21:37 / All) AnotherWorld: He is fountain

Troll comes back just before you say "He is fountain"

Do not ruin the game on purpose. For example, by intentionally feeding, attacking or using spells/items (like Toss or Force Staff) on teammates.

Griefing: Do not go away from keyboard for an excessive amount of time, especially without telling other players beforehand.

28:41 - Lord's first suspicious, really stupid death. He dies pushing middle lane while AnotherWorld and Helmet are being chased around top Scourge base. Then he goes AFK again.
34:41 A kickvote is called by AnotherWorld to have Lord-Assassino kicked for being a "feed".
This is when honto starts talking smack to AnotherWorld.
34:50 Another suspicious, really stupid Lord-Assassino death. He dies pushing top tower when his team is middle fighting against mirana and King Leoric. He does see heroes attacks but doesnt back up right away.
37:48 - Another suspicious, really stupid Lord-Assassino death. He is pushing top tower when everyone is middle. Clinkz invises and comes out on top, barely getting the kill on him.
38:20 - Lord-Assassino takes control of Cunha's toon and courier and feeds them to the opposing team.
38:50 - Lord-Assassino suicides into enemy team.
39:56 - Lord-Assassino takes control of Cunha's toon and feeds to the opposing team.
41:20 - Lord-Assassino takes control of Cunha's toon and feeds to the opposing team.


Total Number of times player broke an ENT rule:
4.
Possible more rules broken:
5.

I believe Lord-Assassino should be given a ban from ENT servers. This is a clear case of feeding.


As far as honto is concerned:
Second point is that, i never threat or insult Honto. That guy maybe high flamed quite all game

(10:49 / All) AnotherWorld: ahah pussies mid
(15:53 / All) AnotherWorld: 4
(15:55 / All) AnotherWorld: try more
(15:59) cunha killed Helmet
(16:01 / All) DieAndComplain: that means u diving to far
(16:06 / All) DieAndComplain: if 4 are ganking u
(16:15 / All) AnotherWorld: means u just fear i rape u all
(17:32 / All) AnotherWorld: u're bad robin hood
(17:40 / All) DieAndComplain: i have my baddays
(17:44 / All) AnotherWorld: red days ?

(36:16 / All) AnotherWorld: 5 vs 3
(36:17 / All) AnotherWorld: fair



First time honto flames AnotherWorld
(34:31 / All) honto: stfu noob


It should also be noted that in all of the times that a kickvote was called, the only 2 players to vote yes on Lord-Assassino were DieandComplain. DieAndcomplain voted yes one time. Not even the acccusers own teammates voted yes.

I believe that honto should NOT be banned. His actions would have had no effect on a kickvote either way.
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AnotherWorld Should Also Be Banned

Postby Yasuoka » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:43 pm

Ent Rules:
Do not ruin the game on purpose. For example, by intentionally feeding, attacking or using spells/items (like Toss or Force Staff) on teammates.

At 4:03 as (Troll)Lord-Assasino is backing away from (Mirana)DieAndComplain after taking large amounts of damage, AnotherWorld hit him with cleansing flames twice in an attempt to help Mirana(DieAndComplain) kill him. AnotherWorld could argue that he was helping to keep him alive, but the issue is that the first time he hit Troll with Cleansing Flames, Lord was literally taking damage from her. The second time, had she had vision he would have died. AnotherWorld drop him down to 12 points of health. Lord barely makes it out alive.
(04:24 / All) AnotherWorld: just shoot him normal
(04:27 / All) AnotherWorld: I tried to help you
(04:32 / All) DieAndComplain: lol i saw
(04:33 / All) AnotherWorld: to kill him
(04:34 / All) AnotherWorld: 2 times ;)

Now AnotherWorrld let DieAndComplain know that Lord-Assassino is coming back, and that he is willing to help kill him.
(05:23 / All) AnotherWorld: he comes back
(05:25 / All) AnotherWorld: be ready to free kill him
(05:26 / All) AnotherWorld: Ok ?
(05:33 / All) AnotherWorld: Arrow
(05:41 / All) AnotherWorld: STUN
(06:34 / All) AnotherWorld: no me
(06:35 / All) AnotherWorld: troll
(06:42 / All) DieAndComplain: both?
(06:46 / All) AnotherWorld: troll first
(06:47 / All) DieAndComplain: ^.^
(06:48 / All) AnotherWorld: kill him
(06:49 / All) AnotherWorld: I help u

Gyrocopter(dota) comes in and ends up chasing Mirana into the hidespot next to Sentinal Tier 1, and LordAssassino come and finish her off.


Ent Rules:
Ghosting is not allowed: Do not leak information to your enemies/opponents.

(09:08 / All) AnotherWorld: he has not boots

(11:11 / All) AnotherWorld: troll mid


Ent Rule:
Griefing: Do not go away from keyboard for an excessive amount of time, especially without telling other players beforehand.

At 12:10 AnotherWorld is afk and targeted by sniper while auto-attacking into the enemy creep-line. They kill him because he is alt+tabbed while standing on a creep-wave.
(12:37 / All) AnotherWorld: was alt tabbed
(12:38 / All) AnotherWorld: nice

With 7 seconds left on his respawn timer he returned. This has given the enemy a free kill.

Second point is that, i never threat or insult Honto. That guy maybe high flamed quite all game

(10:49 / All) AnotherWorld: ahah pussies mid
(15:53 / All) AnotherWorld: 4
(15:55 / All) AnotherWorld: try more
(15:59) cunha killed Helmet
(16:01 / All) DieAndComplain: that means u diving to far
(16:06 / All) DieAndComplain: if 4 are ganking u
(16:15 / All) AnotherWorld: means u just fear i rape u all
(17:32 / All) AnotherWorld: u're bad robin hood
(17:40 / All) DieAndComplain: i have my baddays
(17:44 / All) AnotherWorld: red days ?

(36:16 / All) AnotherWorld: 5 vs 3
(36:17 / All) AnotherWorld: fair



Total number of bannable actions committed by AnotherWorld:
5
Possible more rules broken.
1
I believe that AnotherWorld should also recieve a ban for his actions. He attempted to carry out actions that would have been detrimental to his team and teammate BEFORE any real actions from Lord-Assassino attempted to do so.

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Re: [honto & Lord-assasino@Asia]

Postby AnotherWorld » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:25 pm

Dude, i appreciate your expertise. But obviously he doubled mid without talking at all before going AFK. What you want me to do if no one kicks him ?
Anyway, they enjoyed playing around for several days since it tried to report.
Thank you all, no need anymore.

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Re: [honto & Lord-assasino@Asia]

Postby Yasuoka » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:57 pm

But obviously he doubled mid


I do not know if there are unstated rules to forcing a double mid. However, due to the facts that A.) Any rule against "forced" double mid could be a gray-area at best for enforcing/obeying, and that there is no rule currently listed against double-mid, your actions were uncalled for from the start. Because you did not like the fact that a Portuguese-speaking player forced a double mid, you chose to attempt to help your enemy kill your ally.


What you want me to do if no one kicks him ?

The fact that this needs to be said is ridiculous:
DO NOT MAKE SITUATIONS WORSE BY ATTEMPTING TO HELP THE ENEMY. It is detrimental to a win for your team, it hurts your team, and it is blatantly against the rules.



NOTE: I am not in any way an admin or moderator. I was simply putting in my two cents because you elected not to give time stamps, and in order to get the case resolved one way or another, I chose to put some time-stamps in to help out whatever moderator/admin took a look at the game.

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Re: [honto & Lord-assasino@Asia]

Postby aRt)Y » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:58 pm

http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 562878.w3g

Interesting case. lord-assasino banned for feeding the chicken, leaver trax and partly afking.

denied for honto.
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