Suggestion regarding the public cross-build-issue [LTD]

[Psyclone]

Asking for a 'Legion TD Mega bot' on which it is restricted to cross-build (aswell as to merc). Cross-building affords no skill and still leads to win in 90% of the cases - same goes with merc. It would also be desired to set a minimal amount of games and a certain win ratio (or elo) in order to be able to join these games. I think the former 'HG bot' pretty much coped with the above-mentioned conditions.

[Iznogood]

There was a reason why the former HG ltd bot (ent35) was changed..
It's not like I'm against the suggestion as I prefer these games as well.. but the player base seems to be missing
-Without players setting up a new HG bot seems pointless.

[Psyclone]

Well why don't we make a poll to evaluate if there is such a player base (the cross issue is quite new and I'm convinced that there are enough players who are fed up with it)?

[Diablo_]

What is HG bot? Same as HR bot?
Also, play LIHL man!

[Psyclone]

Yes i meant HR, sorry for typo.

[Iznogood]

Hehe - yea HR bot.. not HG - You're already reminding me of my age after I turned 31 Diablo
Fell free to make a poll.. I still think the long period the HR bot speaks or itself.
- And like diablo says.. play some LIHL?
I know double build is allowed in LIHL - but fewest games are played like that.

[BeepBoopBeep]

It's a great suggestion, the public bot has become a plague full of cross builders, it's a extremely powerful tactic which takes minimal skill.

It's at a point where a person beg's you to cross build because he wants to win 20+ elo and when you deny him he will flame you. I love it

But in reality the LTD community is split in many places there's already 5 LTD bots, then there's LIHL which is basically what your asking for with lower requirements and no A-BAL?? I don't know, either way I would be up for it but I'm just one lone soul o/.

[Psyclone]

The problem in LIHL is the small player base. It is hard to avoid playing with/against certain individuals. LIHL also has a private character (vouch system); what I'm looking are public customers not taking it too serious but serious enough to follow the rules (no cross/no merc).

I think it would be worth to set up such a bot and give it try. I mean there's nothing we could lose, right?

[Drahque]

Bad idea. Theres planty of people who enjoy cross-building, so why ban it? Just play Lihl if u want no merc and no cross, simple as that.

[bit]

are'nt you gone drahqque? there is alot of players which don't like cross, but they aren't skilled enough to play lihl.

i support this suggestion. crossers can be 2 types: 1) don't know about antighoul, 2) knowing about it.

you can be full noob, but if you are in second group, you will 99% hold 11-20. so, if it doesnt require any skill, i think it's like glitching in dota lod.

we need something like new HR bot where cross will be prohibited, and people can play in patience. it also could be a good starting place for those who wants to join lihl in future. where the fuck from people want fresh blood in lihl if it's impossible to get experience for it on ent18. just some silly things happening, like noobs which both sending dino on lvl 2 flaming each other because one of them want to cross, and other don't.

it's worse than mercing, ninja-crossing each other after agreement for no cross game is really annoying. it's nearly impossible to play no cross game, elo hunger raised alot, and it's just not healthy for the community.

[eldryan]

I enjoy xbuilding games. so interesting to actually have decent opponents as opposed to just easy wins. infuriating to - elo, but more satisfying to win.

[bit]

^cool story. you also enjoying 2v2's in lihl, so you can play anytime without cross when you got bored of pub. you don't actually care about those who playing on ent18

silly things happens nowadays. refusing to cross with random noob because he can disconnect, and because cross is just a shitty glitch > lose to noob crossers.

also i should mention that it also breaks gold penalty system. 100% gold leaks whole game, another reason to get rid of this

[supersexyy]

I don't think rules like this are suitable for general public games as they are quite specific and many players will get banned. Would be suitable for a hr bot though.

[eldryan]

^cool story. you also enjoying 2v2's in lihl, so you can play anytime without cross when you got bored of pub. you don't actually care about those who playing on ent18

silly things happens nowadays. refusing to cross with random noob because he can disconnect, and because cross is just a shitty glitch > lose to noob crossers.

also i should mention that it also breaks gold penalty system. 100% gold leaks whole game, another reason to get rid of this

I play quite often on ent18...Especially against crossbuilders. The whole point of xbuilding as opposed to double building is, in fact, the 100% leaks.

But again, its nice to plays pubs at their best, instead of limited by rules that inhibit their performance. Especially since even in the best scenario, it's hard to find a balanced pub game, crossbuilding helps add a stable strategy element to pubs.

I wasn't speaking as the Final Decree, rather as an input from one population of ent18 players who believe similarly (mostly those who also play in 1v1, which does of course provide a very solo way of playing pubs without enforcing playstyle preferences as rules).

[bit]

I wasn't speaking as the Final Decree

sure you didn't, LOL.

whatever, i'll just multibox next time i'll play on ent18, it's less boring than being incomer paired with some noob from pub that will d/c with your value.