Legion TD Mega 1300+ suggestion

[Qvist]

Hey boys and girls!

So I have played a lot of 1100+ games lately and I am a huge fan! The games is much more intense than the original ENT18 bot! The amount of dcs and griefing is minimial.

I think the amount of grief and dcs is very low comparable to other games... !

So why Im here?

I can simply not understand why the elo requirement can't be raised to atleast 1300+ (the activity is maybe not high enough?) so my tricky suggestion is, you should consider removing LIHL and let the LIHL join the public gaming community.

Why separate it? The amount of games played each day in LIHL isn't that high and it's often the same players playing everyday, https://entgaming.net/customstats/lihl/games/1/

LIHL was a good idea when the skill level of the public community was low, but I think it has raised (been a lot better since 1100+), so let's meet on 1300+ elo bot?

Make the 1300+ bot attractive, and I think it will be just as successful as LIHL is/was and it will get a lot of players interested in getting higher elo.

The problem with elo atm is that none gives a damm, it's a big disappointment to play a game where there isn't really anything to play for.. Killed many games in the pass.

What are your thoughts?

[supersexyy]

Any bot where you can smurf will ruin the elo balance.

[Akitos]

I don't think this is a good idea. LIHL should exist. One reason for that is that many LIHL players prefer 2s/3s over 4s, which is also the reason i rarely play LIHL, i almost never see them playing 4s, so i go play 1.1k. Also 1.3k wouldn't change too much in terms of skill level.. I know 1,1k elo players who frequently play 1.1k instead of mega/euro that are better than 1,5 to 1,8k elo players from mega/euro ^^ What it would do tho is letting games fill slower, and they already fill slow sometimes. 1.1k bot is fine atm, don't touch it pls.

[nabo.]

A lot of people seem to think ent31 as a lihl replacement. No, it is a pub bot with an expectation of bit better players and less smurfs.

The bot is a lot more active now compared to when it started and it is fulfilling its initial purpose. 1200-1300 sounds like a workable adjustment.

In the long run whether u see players with 1100 elo with bad w/l rate join or 1200 elo players with bad w/l join.......same shit though.

[SLSGuennter]

Separating LIHL form public bots results in a smurf-free-area + u know the players u are playing with + u cant stack teams, why should this be stopped?

[Dong]

i think 1300+ is a great idea, 1) less smurfs, since you have to reach 1300 elo.

dunno about the lihl thing

The Dong.

[MarshMallows]

It took the 1100+ bot a long time to get where it is now. There is almost no time where I can't get a game on there now, which is pretty nice, that wasn't always the case though, Most people who play on there have 1300+ accounts so it shouldn't be a problem but I think you'd have to do some advertising first as the 1100+ bot didn't do well at the start mainly because people on ent 18 just didn't know about it.

I am not sure if it is needed, but I am not against the idea and I would join the 1300+ bot if there was one.

As for lihl, I don't think there is much the mods can do to fix the current clog debate problems. it will have to be up to the community to vote and come to an agreement and stick to it, which I know is happening now. My thinking is that clog is hard to ban and if you do ban it and then subsequently ban someone for clogging, they will always want to fight their case which will cause a lot of time wasting and annoyance.

If you do ban clog, the only option I can see is that the mods decision is final, there is no appealing it from the player BUT another mod can review the ban and see if it is the correct decision, everyone makes mistakes and misses certain factors sometimes. and posts about it from the baned player would have to be penalized further. now to make this less tough on the player, maybe you could make the ban for clog just 24 hours so it is basically not worth their time arguing to get un banned. But banning for clog then having butthurt jerks posting 5 threads wasting mod time and causing harm to LIHL just isn't feasible or acceptable.

So I think either don't ban it at all or ban it and enforce the bans strictly and without appeal from the player. Other mods reviewing the ban tape should be mandatory also.

[Krumme]

It's such a fragile server. I fear the different between 1100 and 1300 is bigger than you think but I agree we can definetely push it to 1200 and hope for better games and still somewhat the same amount of people

[Qvist]

Well, since I really think this should atleast have a tryout I want to add some small things..

1. LIHL is a closed leauge for the best players in LTD gaming which everyone should be proud of! But is it worth it to sepperate them for good pub players? - I do understand some will say the difference between high elo pub players and LIHL is a big skilldifference + that some players only play LTD because of LIHL. Consider LTD without LIHL?

2. 1100+ bot is good for 2 reasons, no cross and no merc! - BUT the skillgames aren't toptier anymore.

3. 1300+ bot would be for the "elohunters" (elo might matters with a highelobot) and the good players!

4. If the activity isnt high enough for 1300+ maybe highskilled LTD isn't a reality then, but what you lose?

But main focus should be on 1300 bot, and not my "side" suggestion about LIHL..

[Mercy]

I don't think that this is a strong idea.

I would feel differently if the majority of players were 1300+, but in reality, they're not.

If we have more 1300+ people (I'm pushing 1300, was 1300 last night before I lost a couple games) saying, yeah, sure, then I'll reconsider. But right now, there isn't a steady majority of the minority to say, let's try it.

[Qvist]

!ignore michaelsong. (actually just to deffend my self, I have never been a fan of LIHL) thats why im not licking your kids ass.

@Mariah, your point is the 1300 elo players isnt really 1300? I can tell you after the 1100+ bot a lot of players have dropped ELO significant!

Examples - Rocknrolled was 2000 elo is now 1500, IC3 was 1800 is now 1200, Terrr was 1600 is now 1200 but has raised a bit again.

1300 elo bot would for sure give a pretty good picture of what your ELO is.

And again, if players feel for playing 1300+ they should just practice and they will most likely get 1300 elo

[Mercy]

What I am saying is that there aren't enough 1300+ players. Not the opposite.

Lihl should stay the same.

[Stealer]

lihl is not going away, end of discussion.

[eldryan]

this will just encourage smurfing. players can easily get to 1100/1300 in group of 4 with 1000s, and then can easily smurf with premades. this would suck. LIHL serves to take all that out of pubs, as the penultimate lvl without stacking that degrades those who get elo from stacks - in addition to creating a more open atmosphere in the 1100 that is not cutting.

what would be a better suggestion is to make LIHL have a different admissions criteria (wanted to change this since day 1, also tried to get it changed when I became an LIHL mod but no other mods were active - too much change for LIHL mods to enact solo anyways). Here's the link to LIHL admissions process in case you weren't there (pretty obvious, as this thread seems too pointless): https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... hilit=lihl

[matdas]

Poll Added. You get one vote. Poll lasts 15 days.

Bot announcement added too on ent31.