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Wolke TK

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:01 pm
by KinG23
All three of us on the team tell Wolke to push, but he stays 7/4 through level 10 with Aquas and leaks all bosses, instead making Apparitions. Clear refusal to cooperate with the team. This lack of pushing had a big impact on the team losing the race on level 15.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6863610

(17:18 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: u got aqua?
(17:21 / Allied) Wolke: y
(17:22 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: just push?
(17:23 / Allied) KinG23: why arent u pushing
(17:25 / Allied) 1006: y
(17:28 / Allied) 1006: push then
(17:31 / Allied) Wolke: i can do ok 10
(17:34 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: push
(17:36 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: we dont need
(17:37 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: 4x
(17:37 / Allied) 1006: and race 15 ?
(17:57 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: plz push wolke
(18:00 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: its not tneeded
(18:01 / Allied) Wolke: sorry
(18:05 / Allied) KinG23: man
(18:05 / Allied) Wolke: it´s to late
(18:06 / Allied) KinG23: push
(18:11 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: its not too late
(18:15 / Allied) KinG23: you kidding
(18:17 / Allied) 1006: not too late it is for 15 :)
(18:19 / Allied) tariq.td: yes
(18:27 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: wolke now push plz
(18:31 / Allied) Wolke: no
(18:32 / Allied) 1006: gogo
(18:32 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: 7/7
(18:35 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: omfg
(18:35 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: we need it

Re: Wolke TK

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:00 pm
by Lord-Miles
You become a Donbola number 2 , you always make some 1 guilty for your LOSS MAN .
You cant force some 1 to upgrade his LUMBERJACK since hes not agree with you , you cant FORCE some 1 to build what YOU LIKE MAN.

Re: Wolke TK

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:01 pm
by KinG23
Show me the flame please. Not sure why you're trolling on a post that doesn't pertain to you.
Nice of you to claim I flame then edit your post after you see my response.

Re: Wolke TK

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:06 pm
by Lord-Miles
KinG23 wrote:Show me the flame please. Not sure why you're trolling on a post that doesn't pertain to you.
Nice of you to claim I flame then edit your post after you see my response.


And i am not trolling i just say the truth about you.

Yeah i remove the flame and put the GUILTY ?

Since i am still part of lihl i can post here what is your problem ?

Re: Wolke TK

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:29 pm
by Diablo_
What the hell is going on with all the "TK" reports lately? Do you really think this is any close to a TK? It's just waisting the Mods' time and creating unnecessary drama.

Re: Wolke TK

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:37 pm
by Wolke
Staying 7/4 was a mistake no question. But i did´t didn´t cost us the game att all. If this is a TK, we can start report every build/placement mistakes.

Re: Wolke TK

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:54 pm
by nabo.
There are many choices in ltd. There is certainly a best choice, however, there are alternatives.

An appa will make a huge difference? mmmm unless no send, probably not much. + If no send, probably best to just push and let the team hold.

Did wolke stop pushing at 7/4 or did he push to 7/5 7/6 during arena?

Re: Wolke TK

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:10 pm
by KinG23
nabo. wrote:There are many choices in ltd. There is certainly a best choice, however, there are alternatives.

An appa will make a huge difference? mmmm unless no send, probably not much. + If no send, probably best to just push and let the team hold.

Did wolke stop pushing at 7/4 or did he push to 7/5 7/6 during arena?


Stopped pushing at 7/4 at level 7, then didn't push until arena. The point is the whole team told him to push, and he clearly said no. Ended up costing himself income and much needed yolo.

Not asking for much other than a warning/short hour unvouch for refusal to cooperate. It's the point of refusing to listen to the team.

Re: Wolke TK

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:14 pm
by nabo.
Watched replay.

Spoiler!
(16:27 / Allied) Wolke: i try dmg
(16:27 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: oh
(16:27 / Allied) 1006: ok
(16:27 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: well
(16:27 / Allied) Wolke: we all strong
(16:27 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: i have warlocks
(16:27 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: Player [Diablo_] reconnected with GProxy++!
(16:28 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: i could push then
(16:42 / Allied) Wolke: no kingleak 10
(16:46 / Allied) Wolke: could be nice
(16:52 / Allied) Wolke: they don´t need waste lumber on king
(17:00 / Allied) tariq.td: save bitte
(17:05 / Allied) ILOCOS_NORTE: -king
(17:05 / Allied) Diablo_: -king
(17:09 / Allied) tariq.td: wir sind gut
(17:15 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: wolke
(17:18 / Allied) ILOCOS_NORTE: we are gucchi
(17:18 / Allied) Wolke: ?
(17:18 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: u got aqua?
(17:20 / Allied) Diablo_: bitte danke
(17:21 / Allied) Wolke: y
(17:22 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: just push?
(17:23 / Allied) KinG23: why arent u pushing
(17:25 / Allied) 1006: y
(17:28 / Allied) 1006: push then
(17:31 / Allied) Wolke: i can do ok 10
(17:34 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: push
(17:36 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: we dont need
(17:37 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: 4x
(17:37 / Allied) Diablo_: was hast du heute gegessen?
(17:37 / Allied) 1006: and race 15 ?
(17:50 / Allied) ILOCOS_NORTE: ich war brunchen
(17:54 / Allied) tariq.td: ich esse nicht
(17:57 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: plz push wolke
(17:58 / Allied) ILOCOS_NORTE: ach er
(17:58 / Allied) 1006: -king
(17:59 / Allied) ILOCOS_NORTE: ^^
(18:00 / Allied) OccupyW.Street: its not tneeded
(18:01 / Allied) Diablo_: ^^
(18:01 / Allied) Wolke: sorry
(18:05 / Allied) KinG23: man
(18:05 / Allied) Wolke: it´s to late

(23:43 / Allied) Wolke: glike overpush
(23:51 / Allied) Diablo_: u wont hold anything anyway
(23:52 / Allied) Wolke: next time i push btw
(23:56 / Allied) Wolke: just wanted to try
(23:57 / Allied) god.lik3: i hold 15
(23:58 / Allied) god.lik3: ez
(24:08 / Allied) 1006: try what?
(24:11 / Allied) god.lik3: like easiest hold ever
(24:12 / Allied) Wolke: hold^^


Reading this, just seems like a difference of opinion. Wolke admits it wasnt the best choice.

He pushed fine and had 850ish value for lvl 8 and decided he will try to hold as much as he can lvl 10, as stated on chat. Before arena, he sells w/e dead value he built for lvl 10 and pushes. Pushed 7/6 during arena and started massing revs for 15 after. Reasonable enough.

No need for an official warning. Pretty sure wolke has read the topic. Should suffice.

Next time, dont make a report for something like this which the player explained himself and admitted it was not the best choice. Just talk to him instead... Not the degree of tk I would consider purposefully game ruinning or throwing.

Denied

Re: Wolke TK

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:34 pm
by Egahtrac
Wolke wrote:Staying 7/4 was a mistake no question. But i did´t didn´t cost us the game att all. If this is a TK, we can start report every build/placement mistakes.


Thank you for reinforcing the point i made in another thread

Re: Wolke TK

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:26 pm
by Dong
just for future notice @king23 refusal to cooperate, is only related to how the lumber is spend as a team , lvl Sends, king ups.