Fiji lost control
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Re: Fiji lost control
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So u are saying that is okay that u called me a faggot ? A dog ? Piece of shit ? Thats what ur saying ?
If u already asking me to give up on this report, then u could have at least apologized to me for such terrible words. Yea, i was offended by those words, after all, i am a human being.
Dont take this the wrong way. I am willing to move on, forget all of this, and play games with u in future completely normal.
So u are saying that is okay that u called me a faggot ? A dog ? Piece of shit ? Thats what ur saying ?
If u already asking me to give up on this report, then u could have at least apologized to me for such terrible words. Yea, i was offended by those words, after all, i am a human being.
Dont take this the wrong way. I am willing to move on, forget all of this, and play games with u in future completely normal.
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Re: Fiji lost control
I will look into this tomorrow, i just wanna point out here right now that being a hothead doesntmean you are not to be held responsible for your words.If you feel baited by anything then shut your mouth ingame for the good of the team / gameplay and report it afterwards.Report that bait and at least let moderation staff get a fair chance to do smth about it.If you just bite a bait ( not even sure just from chat if there was any) There is very little we can do for yourself here. Also i feel little sympathy towards anybody that takes executive force into his own hands when this is clearly the jurisdiction of the moderation team.It is not your job to determine what is right and wrong here fiji, the mod staff is trying to work towards that. If you have desire to do such, i will gladly see you apply as mod or give us feedback as a veteran that has a general good reputation here.
And no Vendeta you dont have to swallow personal insults on that level no matter what. However, as i pointed out before, you are in the center of trouble often and we as moderators now ( being -1 sadly) are watching closely why that is the case.
And no Vendeta you dont have to swallow personal insults on that level no matter what. However, as i pointed out before, you are in the center of trouble often and we as moderators now ( being -1 sadly) are watching closely why that is the case.
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Re: Fiji lost control
I find that completely fair.
But i again, i've said this milion times, and i will say it again : u will never find such words in my games like fiji said to me.
But i again, i've said this milion times, and i will say it again : u will never find such words in my games like fiji said to me.
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Re: Fiji lost control
ztx)fiji unvouched for 72 hours for excessive flaming. This is the only violation of our rules i feel able to punish in this case.
@Vendeta @ztx)fiji i see little to no positive attitude from any of you towards avoiding this conflict / working towards a positive teamplay.
You do not need to swallow insults, but sometimes it is just the right way to be the bigger man for the good of the teamplay.Sometimes it is the better choice to stop discussing about a call / failsend whatever bad kc and just stick towards trying to end the game with the best chance of a positive result for your team. It doesnt matter if the call was bad, or the kc was bad in this case.It doesnt matter if anyobody is a hothead, that is just an excuse to not take responsibility for your own actions. What matters is that this your fight with fiji hindered the overall teamplay and gaming experience of your other 2 teammates that had to suffer through this immature behaviour. Was that yiour fault alone? was it fijis fault alone ? hard to tell the difference from just the replay and the lobby chat, but i see at as none of you did shine in this situation.the excessive flaming of fiji towards you.
@Vendeta We do not expect you to swallow personal insults but you should reevaluate your overall attitiude and what you can do to avoid those situations. I do not agree with @Hazardous analysis, but i can see why people lean towards interpreting your every word rather negative then positive.You have to be aware of he way some people see you here and try to work to your best effort against that image youve earned yourself on 1200 games and some lobbies here ive seen so far. I do not expect you to take unreasonable insults and flame(hate in general , i just ask you to reevalulute yourself before you report / answer to anybody in this league.
What is your role in the escalation of a situation and couldyoui have done anything to avoid this. If you feel you did absolutely nothing wrong and tried your very best to be a positive and avoid a bad situation then you know what ways you can use.Sometimes it is also just not worthy to report everything that happens, even if a rule break is at hand.
I myself understand the rules to work for the community and their gaming experience in general, not against them.
Sometimes it is just better to let a something slide to work towards a better future / greater experience for everybody here.
This whole post does not imply that you did indeed made a mistake. I just want you to remind that it is rarely a coincidence if the same person happen to be of the center of trouble over and over again. be that as an offender or a victim of abuse.
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@Vendeta @ztx)fiji i see little to no positive attitude from any of you towards avoiding this conflict / working towards a positive teamplay.
You do not need to swallow insults, but sometimes it is just the right way to be the bigger man for the good of the teamplay.Sometimes it is the better choice to stop discussing about a call / failsend whatever bad kc and just stick towards trying to end the game with the best chance of a positive result for your team. It doesnt matter if the call was bad, or the kc was bad in this case.It doesnt matter if anyobody is a hothead, that is just an excuse to not take responsibility for your own actions. What matters is that this your fight with fiji hindered the overall teamplay and gaming experience of your other 2 teammates that had to suffer through this immature behaviour. Was that yiour fault alone? was it fijis fault alone ? hard to tell the difference from just the replay and the lobby chat, but i see at as none of you did shine in this situation.the excessive flaming of fiji towards you.
@Vendeta We do not expect you to swallow personal insults but you should reevaluate your overall attitiude and what you can do to avoid those situations. I do not agree with @Hazardous analysis, but i can see why people lean towards interpreting your every word rather negative then positive.You have to be aware of he way some people see you here and try to work to your best effort against that image youve earned yourself on 1200 games and some lobbies here ive seen so far. I do not expect you to take unreasonable insults and flame(hate in general , i just ask you to reevalulute yourself before you report / answer to anybody in this league.
What is your role in the escalation of a situation and couldyoui have done anything to avoid this. If you feel you did absolutely nothing wrong and tried your very best to be a positive and avoid a bad situation then you know what ways you can use.Sometimes it is also just not worthy to report everything that happens, even if a rule break is at hand.
I myself understand the rules to work for the community and their gaming experience in general, not against them.
Sometimes it is just better to let a something slide to work towards a better future / greater experience for everybody here.
This whole post does not imply that you did indeed made a mistake. I just want you to remind that it is rarely a coincidence if the same person happen to be of the center of trouble over and over again. be that as an offender or a victim of abuse.
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Re: Fiji lost control
Do what must be done. It wont Change my opinion on The matter. And i wont keep kicking up shit from this case in The future anyways. Whats done is done. See you in 3 days 
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Re: Fiji lost control
well i dont agree at all here and i think if you ban fiji you have to ban vendeta at least for the same time.
Insults have no meaning if theres no intention behind it.
i never insult someone with bad words either, yet i can be pretty toxic but that usually refers to the level of skill.
I personally had no big problems with vendeta since he joined lihl, but i know his history and yes he knows how to provoke people in the worst way ive ever seen in an online game.
to underline my disagreement with only fiji ban, i will post the toxic level behind every insult:
Insults have no meaning if theres no intention behind it.
i never insult someone with bad words either, yet i can be pretty toxic but that usually refers to the level of skill.
I personally had no big problems with vendeta since he joined lihl, but i know his history and yes he knows how to provoke people in the worst way ive ever seen in an online game.
to underline my disagreement with only fiji ban, i will post the toxic level behind every insult:
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Re: Fiji lost control
From what ive been told here it is the general policy in LIHL that we as moderators are not allowed to punish / ban / judge anyone for what he is bringing up as evidence. If anyone from this game wants to report Vendeta / fiji for anything at this i will look at it again with that in mind.This needs to be done in another post then. So far i looked at the accusations vendeta reported and judged based on that.
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Re: Fiji lost control
@FateStayNight even though I see your point, disagreeing about a gameplay is not a reason to ban (even if it's verbal). You are allowed to say someone made a crappy call, the other can say he doesn't think so, and you can disagree. If both are not willing to step away from arguing, then it's their own responsibility. Also remember it was 2 people who did not agree with the call, which often leads to blaming afterwards.
What CANNOT happen in this league is the kind of language that is displayed after, even going up to threatening. I really dislike the use of words like 'faggot' in our league in a way that is clearly meant to insult hard. Also, if this is a one-timer, someone losing patience once, okay. But Fiji has a long history of 'crappy' behavior.
What CANNOT happen in this league is the kind of language that is displayed after, even going up to threatening. I really dislike the use of words like 'faggot' in our league in a way that is clearly meant to insult hard. Also, if this is a one-timer, someone losing patience once, okay. But Fiji has a long history of 'crappy' behavior.
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I have insulted like that and i have been insulted like that docens of times for similar situations, thats quite common to happen on lihl. But i never reported that shit and i was never reported for that shit. Never saw ppl reporting for that kind of issues. I usually apply the "new game new life". Like when u play a real sport game and u say "what happened on the court remains on the court". Im very close to agree with the analysis done by fate, some words usually are worse than an insult. If ppl can just stop going mods like this was a school and mods were teachers and start behaving like real man, lihl would be a better place to be. Nn go cry mods for every single shit happening here, keep it for real matters (that is not calling u faggot tbh).
For all the insults/blames i have receive i only posted one special flame about someone making jokes of my mother even after i asked him to stop cuz she dead, and i can tell i have receive much harder shit that what has been reported on this post...
For all the insults/blames i have receive i only posted one special flame about someone making jokes of my mother even after i asked him to stop cuz she dead, and i can tell i have receive much harder shit that what has been reported on this post...
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FadingSuns wrote:I have insulted like that and i have been insulted like that docens of times for similar situations, thats quite common to happen on lihl
And thats huge difference between me and you. I will never use such words with a purpose to hard insult someone. That is why im 100% against it, and this is my way to fight with it. I rly hope fiji dont use such words anymore, nit just to me, but to all players in lihl.
U say that u are fighting for peace and harmony in league, but it is okay that u call someone a faggot? And not in friendly way, but in insulting way? There is a lot of contradiction from you, and also, since u cant stay objective in cases where i am included, you should just watch it from the side, instead of creating a possibility to get into any ridiculous and very much not-needed argument between us two.
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Vendeta wrote: That is why im 100% against it, and this is my way to fight with it. I rly hope fiji dont use such words anymore, nit just to me, but to all players in lihl.
I still think the same about u, u just bait ppl to flame to report afterwards. U know how to use polite words and even that get ppl mad.
Why where u against my post of yesterday if i didnt say any bad word? Seems that when u take some of ur medicine is not that nice for u?
Grow up or leave us alone. Death weight for league the way u are atm.
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I think i've never created thread with "hey guys, lets all gather together to bully x person out from the league!". So no, dont compare anything from us two.
That was really low, especially coming from ex-mod, including this u just wrote.
Nothing else i have to say for you, im done responding.
That was really low, especially coming from ex-mod, including this u just wrote.
Nothing else i have to say for you, im done responding.
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Im not done with u dont worry. Ill work on the report u deserve with some help, winter is comming.
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