SuchNoobMuchWow@USEast

[blueflaming0]

-No other names
-No previous league experience
-I have played with Ricky911 and iightfyre a few times
I have attached a few replays, one of which is me doing income on a cross build

[JunZzi]

Firstly, I would like to say Welcome , and thank you for your consideration into LIHL.

Here is my thoughts on the replays you have provided:

• I never looked at the first replay, since its cross build and we Dont cross build in lihl.
  
• Your second replay is very poor play, OB lvl 1, Underbuild lvl 2, thus leaking level 2, and buiilding a greymayne for lvl 3, and thus leaking as well, Which pretty well ruined your game and income.
  
• The third replay is pretty good, you went wisps at the right levels, held every level, and had decent income for noob teammates.

I would like to see a few more Solo Replays for us to make a decision on your application,

Looking forward to seeing more.

[Diablo_]

Hello and thanks for applying.
Sadly I'm also not impressed by your replays. Cross replay ignored, see Junzzi. Second replay is horrible, see Junzzi. Third replay was OK I guess, but there's not much you could do wrong with those towers.

Please show us more replays.

PS: As advice I'm gonna copy paste one part which I also wrote to OneHardSuck:
Learn how much gold every level (roughly) gives and plan your build and incoming some levels ahead. Too often you got 70 or so gold left after building which you could have used way earlier to buy another wisp or such.

[blueflaming0]

I figured the cross build wouldn't help but I thought I would add it since some LIHL do cross in pubs for fun. As for the solo play, it was pretty bad. I'm working on the way I build and I appreciate the feedback.

Thanks!

[supersexyy]

viewtopic.php?f=72&t=18060#p84313

This might be of use. Remembering creep bounties can allow you to plan ahead - which is what most LIHL players do.

[blueflaming0]

So I used the creep bounty table/sheet like you guys suggested and I managed my gold fairly well but still screwed up a bit.
Here are some more replays from more recent games

[iightfyre]

I didn't watch the first 3 replays because it seemed like everyone else has already. I watched the last four though. Here are my comments:

Replay #1 -

• 1st wisp is late (about when lvl 2 starts)
• Build is pretty good. Grey, WC, Overseer for ez 5 and 2 WC for 7 ez clears
• 2nd wisp is late also
• Barely made greymane and acted surprised that you had enough gold
• I couldn't see your income cuz of being East but I think I counted 4/0 or 5/0 for lvl 7 which isn't terrible; 1135 value mb a little high for 4v3 game with one partner having blasters. But I can understand you didn't want to leak
• You did a really good job coaching your teammates during the game
• Overall pretty good but short game. Main issue is not knowing how much gold you are getting. Start using the spreadsheet and learn the gold per lvl pls

Replay #2

• Got a huge feed on lvl 2 and did not use it to wisp. You went into lvl 3 with over 100g unused.
• You did eventually go 3/1 for lvl 5 but everything, once again, was made late. You had over 200g going into lvl 4. You only need 146 to make hydra on 5
• 98 gold unspent going into 7. Not sure if you were saving for that 2nd sea giant but it didn't seem like you were. This is a bad lvl to have unused gold, imo.
• 4/2 and 5/2 were late - and you saved too much gold on lvl 9 to make a 2nd hydra
• You did eventually make 7/2 and 7/3 but it was also late.
• Good job going 7/5 immediately after 10
• Good job sending lvl 14
• Once again, I would consider this replay "pretty good" - your biggest problem continues to be planning ahead and managing gold/wisps during early levels

Replay #3

• You went 3/0 before lvl 2 and barely held - I like this!
• 3/1 was a little late on the start of 4 but I like the aggressive wisping this game!
• Late wisps again right before lvl 6 start - but you BARELY held lvl 6 and that's a good thing!
• 7/5 with 65 income on arena is not too shabby
• I like the aggression you had between lvl 11-17 but in LIHL you would have lost on 17. Lucky West didn't send.
• Overall I think this is better than the first 2 replays because you aggressively upped your lumber and were not as late with upgrades. Your build would have failed 17 to a send and failed 20. Not sure there is much you could have done tho, I didn't see your entire rolls. (PS - Messiah really doesn't do much of anything for fenix just FYI)

Replay #4

• Great job stopping yellow from totally destroying his build!
• Your infantry build was correct lvl 1-7, once again just late on wisps.
• 3 pyro and 2 zeus doesnt hold lvl 8. You said "forgot to build" but not sure what you were planning on building with 190g and ur roll. Maybe you were texting
• Meh.. I wasn't too impressed by the decision making for sending and king tbh. Another race on 20 as was your last replay. Shouldn't start sending warlocks while your team is leaking to the king unless you think you can ko the other team and wasting heals is a non-issue.

Overall:

• Pro - You coach your team a lot and can be a leader. (sometimes a little snarky, but aren't we all?)
• Pro - Good general knowledge of towers and when to build what towers (ex, siege for 17 magic fr 20 etc)
• Pro - Following up with your LIHL application and being proactive getting replays and playing solo lanes in pubs
• Con - I think you need to print that spreadsheet out and work on wisping quicker. You got better in your last 2 replays but this is a big part of the LIHL. Most players are thinking 1-3 levels ahead at least. Some even know roughly their income and value for lvl 7 when lvl 1 starts. Would like to see you improve in this area.
• Con -Would also like to see a replay where you hold a send on 17 or 20. LIHL requires that you can be strong on key levels (7, 10, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20 for example) and I haven't seen you tested much by hard sends in these replays.

Anyway, I'll let other people chime in on this. I think you need a little more practice with timing and planning. That's my opinion of what's holding you back right now.
I could say yes or no at this point. I really feel that you are on the cusp. Awaiting other opinions...

[blueflaming0]

Thank you iigtfyre for the great analysis. I used the bounty spreadsheet all of the game (I think) my only problem is sometimes knowing what towers will and won't hold the tough levels like 3 and 7. I like to try and ob for 7 sometimes just in case the rest of the team leaks. As for the one game where the enemy didn't send on 17, I had to roll about 3-4 times to get me some siege and tried to do what I could with it.
I'll be uploading more replays tonight and so on until a decision is made. Until then, thank you for reviewing my application.






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I didn't watch the first 3 replays because it seemed like everyone else has already. I watched the last four though. Here are my comments:

Replay #1 -

• 1st wisp is late (about when lvl 2 starts)
• Build is pretty good. Grey, WC, Overseer for ez 5 and 2 WC for 7 ez clears
• 2nd wisp is late also
• Barely made greymane and acted surprised that you had enough gold
• I couldn't see your income cuz of being East but I think I counted 4/0 or 5/0 for lvl 7 which isn't terrible; 1135 value mb a little high for 4v3 game with one partner having blasters. But I can understand you didn't want to leak
• You did a really good job coaching your teammates during the game
• Overall pretty good but short game. Main issue is not knowing how much gold you are getting. Start using the spreadsheet and learn the gold per lvl pls

Replay #2

• Got a huge feed on lvl 2 and did not use it to wisp. You went into lvl 3 with over 100g unused.
• You did eventually go 3/1 for lvl 5 but everything, once again, was made late. You had over 200g going into lvl 4. You only need 146 to make hydra on 5
• 98 gold unspent going into 7. Not sure if you were saving for that 2nd sea giant but it didn't seem like you were. This is a bad lvl to have unused gold, imo.
• 4/2 and 5/2 were late - and you saved too much gold on lvl 9 to make a 2nd hydra
• You did eventually make 7/2 and 7/3 but it was also late.
• Good job going 7/5 immediately after 10
• Good job sending lvl 14
• Once again, I would consider this replay "pretty good" - your biggest problem continues to be planning ahead and managing gold/wisps during early levels

Replay #3

• You went 3/0 before lvl 2 and barely held - I like this!
• 3/1 was a little late on the start of 4 but I like the aggressive wisping this game!
• Late wisps again right before lvl 6 start - but you BARELY held lvl 6 and that's a good thing!
• 7/5 with 65 income on arena is not too shabby
• I like the aggression you had between lvl 11-17 but in LIHL you would have lost on 17. Lucky West didn't send.
• Overall I think this is better than the first 2 replays because you aggressively upped your lumber and were not as late with upgrades. Your build would have failed 17 to a send and failed 20. Not sure there is much you could have done tho, I didn't see your entire rolls. (PS - Messiah really doesn't do much of anything for fenix just FYI)

Replay #4

• Great job stopping yellow from totally destroying his build!
• Your infantry build was correct lvl 1-7, once again just late on wisps.
• 3 pyro and 2 zeus doesnt hold lvl 8. You said "forgot to build" but not sure what you were planning on building with 190g and ur roll. Maybe you were texting
• Meh.. I wasn't too impressed by the decision making for sending and king tbh. Another race on 20 as was your last replay. Shouldn't start sending warlocks while your team is leaking to the king unless you think you can ko the other team and wasting heals is a non-issue.

Overall:

• Pro - You coach your team a lot and can be a leader. (sometimes a little snarky, but aren't we all?)
• Pro - Good general knowledge of towers and when to build what towers (ex, siege for 17 magic fr 20 etc)
• Pro - Following up with your LIHL application and being proactive getting replays and playing solo lanes in pubs
• Con - I think you need to print that spreadsheet out and work on wisping quicker. You got better in your last 2 replays but this is a big part of the LIHL. Most players are thinking 1-3 levels ahead at least. Some even know roughly their income and value for lvl 7 when lvl 1 starts. Would like to see you improve in this area.
• Con -Would also like to see a replay where you hold a send on 17 or 20. LIHL requires that you can be strong on key levels (7, 10, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20 for example) and I haven't seen you tested much by hard sends in these replays.

Anyway, I'll let other people chime in on this. I think you need a little more practice with timing and planning. That's my opinion of what's holding you back right now.
I could say yes or no at this point. I really feel that you are on the cusp. Awaiting other opinions...

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[vicdcq]

I dont wannay say anything different that chris said!!
But i have no idea how can u be strong on 7, 10, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20 on the same game!!
But i am just a naab learning!!

Just impossible!!

I mean... If u want to go strong late game u have to go income early!!if u go income early u cant hold 7 ( pretty hard on lihl) and if u get lucky and have aquas and something to hold 10 u MB hold 10,,and again u need to have lucky to rr something good to 17!!! I think the games in lihl r pretty hard and whe should obs if the player can accept that his strategies are wrpng and follow what old scholl players have to say and adapt it!!

[iightfyre]

haha.. I didn't mean on the SAME game.

Unless you are god.lik3. Then we all expect you to hold every level with a demon in succession

[vicdcq]

Ppl just hate me there!!i am so sad

[iightfyre]

@blueflaming0

After playing nearly 10 games with you, watching multiple replays of yours and getting input from other members of the community and LIHL moderators; I regret to inform you that we are denying your application at the present time.

Do not be discouraged!!

You show great potential to be an LIHL member - but not just yet. Please continue to work as we discussed on planning your game ahead of the current level. Utilize the creep spread sheet and get a better understanding of what towers you need to hold key levels. When you play good, you play good. But the inconsistency in your game is holding you back at the moment. Please try to reduce the number of failed builds that you encounter (I say reduce because no one is perfect!). Come back to us with more replays and keep that same eager and friendly attitude that you already have!

I encourage you to reapply in a few weeks and we will all have a fresh look at the new and improved player that you have become.

Best wishes