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observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:28 pm
by Chantry
Im not sure if this is exactly related to the fact that you have implemented this observer type of things but the colors on the dota minimap are now messed up whenever I play, i use the color setting where allies are teal and enemies are red but now everything and i mean everything is just dark blue and its hindering my game play... is there anything that can be done about this? slash or is this just an issue i have :/

Re: observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:47 pm
by Palsgraf
Please. There is no point to streaming everyday games. The benefit of being able to watch a random game does not come even close to outweighing the burden of having all the minimap colors changed. Can't see enemy creeps anymore.

Please go back to the old system. Enable streaming games for tournaments if you must - but leave it out of everyday games.

Re: observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:53 pm
by uakf.b
Wait why do observers cause the colors to change?

Re: observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:04 pm
by Palsgraf
who knows but it messes everything up. in dota, at least.

Re: observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:07 pm
by uakf.b
Palsgraf wrote:who knows but it messes everything up. in dota, at least.

Only for noobs who don't use the right colors on the minimap.

Re: observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:27 pm
by Palsgraf
thanks for fixing it @uakf.b qt3.14 ;)

Re: observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:32 pm
by uakf.b
Just temporarily reverted so that noobs have some time to learn how to play with the correct color mode.

Re: observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:25 pm
by teller55
Noobs there is a button next to the minimap that toggles colors, just click that there are three different color settings...

Re: observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:52 pm
by Chantry
teller55 wrote:Noobs there is a button next to the minimap that toggles colors, just click that there are three different color settings...


thats the point, most people who play dota use the color setting of teal for allies and red for enemy but with observers it all changes to dark blue on that setting...

Re: observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:09 pm
by uakf.b
Chantry wrote:thats the point, most people who play dota use the color setting of teal for allies and red for enemy but with observers it all changes to dark blue on that setting...

No, most people who play DotA use the player-based so they know which hero is where. Only noobs use teal/red.

Re: observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:30 pm
by Chantry
idts

Re: observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:31 pm
by Palsgraf
uakf.b wrote:
Chantry wrote:thats the point, most people who play dota use the color setting of teal for allies and red for enemy but with observers it all changes to dark blue on that setting...

No, most people who play DotA use the player-based so they know which hero is where. Only noobs use teal/red.

I suppose he meant most experienced players...

Seeing the individual colors for heroes is pointless - it's much more useful to know the hero is an enemy or ally than it is to know what color he is.

Just disable streaming for dota - you don't even play dota so what do you care

Re: observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:38 pm
by VirusHunter
this is pointless debate.
you can easily tell if the color of the dot on the map is an enemy. the colors arnt hard to remember which is on your team.
blue pink
teal grey
purple light blue
yellow dark green
orange brown
really, toggle your shit to the proper colors that MOST dota players use. its way more beneficial to know that for example axe if pink.
so when you see a lil pink dot coming towards you, you can say to yourself oh axe is on his way i should run so he doesnt catch me in his call.
instead of having to click on the mini map or scroll all the way over to see whos actually coming.
but on another turn, you could see drow coming at you, knowing drow is grey, and u think you could take him you could go to meet him. it has way more benefits to setting each player to respective colors on the minimap then to take away streaming.

Re: observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:20 pm
by Fangorn
I don't have any problems with the colors, I have always used the standard one to differ players. As mentioned earlier in this topic, this is easy to fix by toggling the color-settings.

However; I have experienced a new issue, which seems to coincide with the adding of streams. Figured I might aswell bump this thread:

- Sometimes the bot ent5 (us/ca ap) is offline. I do /whois ent5, and the bot is marked as being offline. I don't know, might be only me.

- The neutral creeps bugs. This was never the case before the newly changes. I remember facing the exact same case at other servers back in the days. Basically, the neutral creeps won't stop chasing you, they will always focus you nomatter what. I need to test this more throughly, let me know if anyone else has got the same problem.

Re: observer change

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:36 pm
by Chantry
VirusHunter wrote:this is pointless debate.
you can easily tell if the color of the dot on the map is an enemy. the colors arnt hard to remember which is on your team.
blue pink
teal grey
purple light blue
yellow dark green
orange brown
really, toggle your shit to the proper colors that MOST dota players use. its way more beneficial to know that for example axe if pink.
so when you see a lil pink dot coming towards you, you can say to yourself oh axe is on his way i should run so he doesnt catch me in his call.
instead of having to click on the mini map or scroll all the way over to see whos actually coming.
but on another turn, you could see drow coming at you, knowing drow is grey, and u think you could take him you could go to meet him. it has way more benefits to setting each player to respective colors on the minimap then to take away streaming.



relax... its much easier to see red on a black background then yellow on a green background... most good players use red enemy teal ally