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DotA !draw

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:15 am
by aRt)Y
I don't really see the point in having draw not time-out like votekick. The chance of players forgetting to !undraw and therefore losing their game by the opponents abusing !draw to end the game in their favor is rather high.

So ye, technically this is correct (viewtopic.php?f=24&t=31999#p139032) but from a logical point of view, it doesn't make much sense for me.

Why not just make it a 60 seconds timing window?

Re: DotA !draw

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:38 am
by supersexyy
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27000&hilit=draw&start=30

Although a lot of people were in support of this suggestion, @boucinghitman recently rejected it

Re: DotA !draw

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:45 am
by aRt)Y
Thanks for posting, I knew I've read about something familiar before.

The topic has many legit statements and arguing "Just don't use it if you think you'll cancel." is kind of dumb. ffing is situational and as every situation is only temporarily, so should the command only be active for a certain period.

Re: DotA !draw

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:56 am
by Diablo_
Aren't !ff and !draw different commands?
!ff = team loses/gives up, !draw = game gets nulled?

This thread is pretty different imo, !ff can't be undone while !draw can already be undone and doing so automatically if the vote doesn't pass within 1 minute might be helpful (tho low priority imo ^.^).

Re: DotA !draw

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:16 am
by aRt)Y
Agreements wrote:use !undraw ?

People forget about having used it at min 20 if the opposite team uses !draw after 40 minutes ingame..

It shouldn't take uak too long to add an auto-time-out.

Re: DotA !draw

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:25 pm
by nabo.
@art)y

I got rejected before: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27000&hilit=%21ff

May be uakf.b will consider this time around and apply for draw and ff commands.

It is also true that people should !undraw, but !draw expiring would eliminate abuse.

Recent similar case that I recall:

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=31999

Re: DotA !draw

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:28 pm
by supersexyy
Oh yeah, the other one was FF whilst this is draw. I think draw should definitely expire.

Re: DotA !draw

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:44 am
by eldryan
Can just !undraw as soon as you draw if things don't pass, or 20 seconds after. If you keep it up, it's your own decision...

Re: DotA !draw

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:18 pm
by sandm
I don't think this is an issue as undraw exists.


Something does need to be done about ff as there is no way to withdraw it.

Re: DotA !draw

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:10 pm
by Reallife
imo the draw function is good as it is. The !undraw command is enough to avoid abuse.
And I never had the situation in one of my games, where draw was abused.
If a whole team forgets to !undraw then they nearly deserve to get punished for it :P

About the ff system, I agree that there should be a change.

Re: DotA !draw

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:42 pm
by uakf.b
Auto undraw will be added. Auto unforfeit should already exist. Topic locked. PLEASE DO NOT MOVE TO ARCHIVE.

Re: DotA !draw

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:32 pm
by BouncingHitman
uakf.b wrote:PLEASE DO NOT MOVE TO ARCHIVE.

Moved. @uakf.b