Ban Request Format
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:06 pm
Regards requests such as viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18627
I already know the outcome of the suggestion, you guys are bias to your format and won't bother to listen to reason regarding it. I'll proceed regardless, as I just seem to be repeatedly warned for including the same information in a different, easier, more clear adaptation.
I ask that the format be regarded as a guideline rather than a demand. Still include it automatically, whatever you want to do, just don't warn and auto deny users for using a slightly different rendition that includes the same information.
I'll include the conversation before the topic or posts gets deleted.
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I already know the outcome of the suggestion, you guys are bias to your format and won't bother to listen to reason regarding it. I'll proceed regardless, as I just seem to be repeatedly warned for including the same information in a different, easier, more clear adaptation.
I ask that the format be regarded as a guideline rather than a demand. Still include it automatically, whatever you want to do, just don't warn and auto deny users for using a slightly different rendition that includes the same information.
I'll include the conversation before the topic or posts gets deleted.
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EdgeOfChaos wrote:@TimmyTheTauren fix your post or I'll deny it. We have those fields for a reason, I'll spell those out to you if you really want me to.
(edit) To clarify, passive-agressive insulting in ban requested is not accepted. Revise it if you want the request to be taken seriously.
TimmyTheTauren wrote:Not sure you deleted my post when you offered to spell it out for me.
I'll accept that offer, please spell out why those fields are so crucial.
EdgeOfChaos wrote:I did not delete your post, arty did, and he did it because he wanted you to PM it. But since this is directly related to the topic, I will post this explanation here, since more need to see it than just you (and also since I made my first offer publicly).
Your WarCraft III username is good because we need it so we can know not to ban that username if we find something that you did wrong ingame. Some people have their WC3 name and forum name the same, but a lot of users do not. We should not have to do any research to find out what your ingame name is.
Violator's username is good because many people do not write it in title, or there are so many violators that not all of them can be listed. Also some people put unrelated stuff like "ban this dude plz" in the title instead of the username of violator.
Game name is not really necessary for most requests, but a lot of people are unable to find stats page or misinterpret the stat-page link section and link a user's statpage or something, so if a user is actually trying to fill out the format well and can't do statspage, we can find it for them with the gamename.
These do not apply to your specific request, but they do apply to requests in general.
Think of it like this: There are some requests that do not need the Time of Incidents section filled out to be processed, but we do not remove Time of Incidents as a section. In the same way, there are some users like you who have the same username as forum account, fill out the title, and know how to find statspages, but we don't remove those three as sections.
It takes, what, a total of three seconds to fill out your username and the violators username? It takes another three seconds to open up the statspage, copy the title, and paste it. It's not that hard. I do it for all of my requests I post, you can too.
Also the passive-agressive flaming of the template in the opening post is annoying. This, imo, is the main problem with your request. Show some respect.
So, fix it please.
TimmyTheTauren wrote:Almost all of your explanation is in regards to inexperienced users. My original assessment of the usefulness of the ban request format stated that it works great as an outline, however should not be required to a point where a request will be denied if it is not used, and denied even if all the required info is presented.
This is my complaint, this is my confusion. I simply put all the required information that the format calls for in an easier to read, less cluttered format. If any of your mods cannot understand the information I had put in my previous ban requests, I suggest immediate removal as your moderators have down syndrome.
Yes, it's not difficult to fill out the full thing. However since the whole thing is unnecessary, I have no need to do so, regardless of difficulty. Just because something isn't very hard to do, do you do it?
Think of it as not properly using the English language. Do people often shorten words such as "you" to "u" and phrases such as "away from keyboard" to "afk"? I am merely using the same protocol with your ban request format. I include the point while using less text in a simpler manner.
Perhaps you should start forum warning people for not using proper grammar?
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Lastly and off topic to what I am trying to prove, I'd like to alert you that this is the internet. I can with 100% confirmation tell you that there are people you will find annoying on the internet, people you do not enjoy. Think of them as a learning experience. Besides, don't act like the staff is a team of players who possess immense amounts of respect. I see many blues, greens, even red's insulting common members on the forum, the chat, as well as in-game. Don't get me wrong, I don't find this unacceptable in any way. Trolling is a natural part of the gaming environment.
I apologize if my "passive-aggressive flaming" has annoyed you, but you should learn to deal with it. Although, I will humor you and make it more to the point.
[/spoiler]EdgeOfChaos wrote:Either way this is not the place to debate the format. Want to debate the format or the rules? Go to Suggestions.
What you have is better but it's still not fixed. Does it REALLY matter? No, but you just seem to be doing it to cause trouble, as typing "TimmyTheTauren" is shorter than typing "Look to your left", the same with violator's name. As an ex-staff you should be setting a good example etc etc...
Bottom line is fix it or it will be filed in the circular bin