Updates for the LTW hostbot.

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Updates for the LTW hostbot.

Postby Robbepop » Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:48 pm

Hiho,

I came back to warcraft III some days ago after I was inactive for a longer duration and saw that you are hosting my map LTW-Evolution v1.62.
It is nice to see that the map I've made is now some kind of popular and even gets automatically hosted.
The Line Tower Wars Evolution series however has been under development further after v1.62 and there are even different development branches - one for the classic Line Tower Wars genre with old-school towers and a highly advanced v2.x series with a complete tower setup overhaul which feels quite different.
Some players are used too much to the old systems and thus don't like the new version which others love and that's why there are now two more or less different versions of this game.

v1.x series: LTW-Evolution v1.67
v2.x series: LTW-Evolution v2.31

The newer v2.x series even feature an A.I. so that players can add computer slots to play against the computer with three different diffuculties.

While v1.66 (not v1.67!) is quite old already there is a reason why it wasn't hosted as it had a major bug which made this single version unplayable, this got fixed in v1.67 besides many other things.

It would be nice to update the hostbot to play the newer versions instead of the rather old v1.62 version - a very nice thing would be to host both versions simultaneously on the same bot if this is possible to make everybody happy - the ones who like the old series and the ones who favor the newer ones.

Here are the map links:
v1.67 - http://www.epicwar.com/maps/237440/
v2.31 - http://www.epicwar.com/maps/237303/

I am looking forward to your comments! =)

And btw. your hosting service is the best - I use it all the time since I know about it.^^

Robbepop

Edit:

Slot layout: 12 players, 2 teams (host is gamechooser and the other players), all slots are open for players, host should be able to occupy slots by the computer and players in general should be able to choose their race as it has a visual impact to the game.
Number of players until autostart: maybe 5 or something like that while 12 players is the maximum amount.
Problems with map: there is a fatal error problem with v1.67, v2.31 as well as the already hosted v1.62 versions, however this makes the game not unplayable and is avoidable for the players by restarting warcraft III after every LTW game. I am already working hard to identiy the cause of the problem but it is in general very hard to do that for warcraft III as the game mechanics are mostly hidden. And since this error is well known already by the players and avoidable the game (and since you hosted such a version (v1.62) already, the game is still playable. This is the only known problem! The fatal error only happens to single players during the game and only after some time has passed - so no impact for the bot at all or the whole party.
Why the map should be autohosted: It is a newer version of an already hosted version.

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Re: Updates for the LTW hostbot.

Postby uakf.b » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:02 pm

I've updated the existing bot to 1.67. Will look to see if we can host the other one too.
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Re: Updates for the LTW hostbot.

Postby Robbepop » Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:56 pm

Thank you very much for your fast response.
Hosting the other new version too would be extremely awesome! =)

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Re: Updates for the LTW hostbot.

Postby Robbepop » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:35 am

Hiho,

just in case you really want to let the newer version v2.3x run on a bot: I have made an update to it and already uploaded the newest version v2.32 to your mappool.
it has some major improvements and should be hosted instead of v2.31 if you decide to host it at all. ;-)

link: http://www.epicwar.com/maps/237550/

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Re: Updates for the LTW hostbot.

Postby teller55 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:40 pm

Does anyone have any comments regarding hosting a second version of this map? My guess would be no, at this time, because we currently already host 2 versions of Line Tower Wars:
[ENT] Line Tower Wars (405 games in the last week)
[ENT] Team Line Tower Wars (63 games in the last week)

405 is a decent number of games in a week, but if you split that into 2 separate bots, you are probably only going to get 150-200 games on each bot (or 1 with all games, 1 with no games). Games will take longer to start, etc.

I think that we would just need a conversation between the people that play LTW and see which of the two proposed versions we host being I don't believe it's popular enough to be able to support hosting 2 separate versions because you might just end up splitting the community.


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