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Re: Battleships rules

Postby uakf.b » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:16 pm

Win3 wrote:More disables and more item slots in the long run, sure, but depending on how early it became lopsided, the team of 5 could easily be hilariously outgunned by the team of 2

Ok, well, I changed rules so it says backdoor is allowed in any circumstance.
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Re: Battleships rules

Postby battleships » Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:45 pm

is it allowed to drop your items on the ground before you leave a game ? (such as hulls/wood)

is it allowed to kill the enemies afk? (since its not your fault they do have an afk)

is it ban-able not to votekick a purpose feeder?- if so, where is the line between being just a noob or feeding on purpose

is it allowed to use the '-share'-function to pool in no trader modes?

IMO burning enemies stuff should be allowed ( since its their fault to give you a chance to burn it)- though pooling the enemy on PURPOSE isnt allowed.

in acc nt mode rushing with sader to the enemy right at beginning should be allowed- its part of the game and strategy.

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Re: Battleships rules

Postby uakf.b » Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:49 pm

IMO burning enemies stuff should be allowed ( since its their fault to give you a chance to burn it)- though pooling the enemy on PURPOSE isnt allowed.

The game is designed to not allow stealing enemy items. You are only able to burn enemy items because of glitch. While burning your own items is allowed because it has become integral part of the game, burning enemy items has not and therefore should remain disallowed.
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Re: Battleships rules

Postby Win3 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:05 pm

battleships wrote:is it allowed to drop your items on the ground before you leave a game ? (such as hulls/wood)


this is actually a good question, as leaver gold is half the net worth of the leaver, so if he drops his stuff, that lets you to [potentially] recoup full value of leaver items. Also it skews gold distribution, as its probably going to be one person getting said gold. On the other hand, leaving because "it'll give my team a better chance of winning when they take my stuff" is basically pooling

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Re: Battleships rules

Postby Stealer » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:43 pm

Can we get multi-boxing / afk-pooling on the ban list?

I don't see anything about -zoom normal in the op.

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Re: Battleships rules

Postby aRt)Y » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:15 am

Cambrioleuse wrote:Can we get multi-boxing on the ban list?

That should be part of the general rules. I'll edit them.
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Re: Battleships rules

Postby matdas » Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:38 pm

battleships wrote:is it allowed to drop your items on the ground before you leave a game ? (such as hulls/wood)

I dont think it should be allowed. I'm against burning hulls/wood. But obviously the majority will rule over this. Everyone wants the advantage of a full selling item...

battleships wrote:is it allowed to kill the enemies afk? (since its not your fault they do have an afk)

Yes. If they want to be safe when they go pee, then they should go somewhere safe.

battleships wrote:is it ban-able not to votekick a purpose feeder?- if so, where is the line between being just a noob or feeding on purpose

Yes, it is bannable not to vote to kick a purpose feeder.
battleships wrote:is it allowed to use the '-share'-function to pool in no trader modes?

I would have to agree with uafk.b only the Trader ship should be allowed to pool gold.

battleships wrote: IMO burning enemies stuff should be allowed ( since its their fault to give you a chance to burn it)- though pooling the enemy on PURPOSE isnt allowed.

I agree. If you kill an enemy while they are shopping and they are dropping their items to burn, then yes, that should be allowed. However, again, this is my opinion. Giving your hulls/wood to the enemy on purpose to burn would in fact be feeding, thus bannable.

battleships wrote: in acc nt mode rushing with sader to the enemy right at beginning should be allowed- its part of the game and strategy.
No idea. I dislike accel mode.

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Re: Battleships rules

Postby aRt)Y » Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:04 pm

So.. any final set of rules to add to the wiki?
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Re: Battleships rules

Postby matdas » Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:19 pm

Not allowed:
  • Stealing enemy team's items (by burning glitch or otherwise)
  • Pooling teammates via burning
  • Taking teammates' items without permission
  • --Only Trader Ship can pool gold
  • --Telling people to type -zoom normal and a dysnc happens
Allowed:
  • Burning your own items
  • Backdooring

Definitions/clarification:
  • Burning: picking up an item type when you already have one in the type (for example, picking up a silk sail when you have a royal sail); the picked up item is deleted from the game and 100% of its gold value is returned to player who picked it up
  • -- Once changed out of the Trade ship, player can no longer pool gold
  • --You cannot change to Trader Ship pool gold and change back to a regular ship to pool gold

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I added the -- rules. See if those would work in terms of wording?
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Re: Battleships rules

Postby aRt)Y » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:59 am

http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?title=EntGaming:BSRules

@matdas I am not entirely sure if I correctly classified the subitems. Please confirm.

Could you clarify what has to be removed from the trader ship?
Once removed out of the Trade ship, the player can no longer pool gold.
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Re: Battleships rules

Postby Win3 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:54 am

You should probably add something about how much gold being moved counts as pooling. A non-trader ship giving like 200 gold to someone so they can buy an item is perfectly valid in normal.

Also, the use of -share was not addressed.

Edit: Don't put "only trader ship allowed to pool gold" under "not allowed". that's just asking to be misinterpreted. Also multiboxing + self pooling was not addressed.

Edit 2: Any chance we can get something along the lines of a "if your team demands you not trade because you are new and dying alot, you must switch" rule? Dota-analogy: You're new to the game and pick a hero that has 1/4 normal HP and gives 2-3x the gold on death

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Re: Battleships rules

Postby aRt)Y » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:05 pm

Win3 wrote:Edit 2: Any chance we can get something along the lines of a "if your team demands you not trade because you are new and dying alot, you must switch" rule? Dota-analogy: You're new to the game and pick a hero that has 1/4 normal HP and gives 2-3x the gold on death

Never heard of that.

Multiboxing is part of the general rules.

self pooling was not addressed.

I can add that later.

Edit: Don't put "only trader ship allowed to pool gold" under "not allowed". that's just asking to be misinterpreted.

Then give an example on how to phrase it.
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Re: Battleships rules

Postby matdas » Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:43 pm

@art)y
Once changed out of the Trade ship, player can no longer pool gold

You can change your ship while playing the game. When the player decides he does not want to be trader anymore and changes ships, he can no longer pool gold to allies.

You should probably add something about how much gold being moved counts as pooling. A non-trader ship giving like 200 gold to someone so they can buy an item is perfectly valid in normal.

Easily abusable. Who's to say they "don't know the maximum amount of gold" they've traded. It leaves it way to open. If we say "you can only trade a maximum of 1000 gold throughout the game" it can easily be forgettable about how much you have given away. Just putting "only trader can pool" covers the abusive of pooling.

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Re: Battleships rules

Postby aRt)Y » Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:07 pm

Is -share important to add, matdas?
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Re: Battleships rules

Postby matdas » Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:46 pm

Not sure. It's been a really long time since i played a game of bships. When i played, -share wasn't in the game.

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