opinion difference cannot be considered as GAME RUINING

[mianmianhae]

Your Warcraft III username: mianmianhae
Realm/Gateway: west
Why are you banned: teammates said game ruining
Why you should be unbanned: I asked my teammates to push, and no one really back up on the game. We could push the lines much earlier and all of my teammates just go to the jungle for farming. Who is the support? who try to push the lines? rest of the players just farm and they could not read the entire flow of the game. As you can see, i put the mines to stop regenerating the neutral creeps. And then they start to push the lines and beat them much earlier to finish the game. And we won the game. I am the only one who read the flow of the game, and led us won the game. DOTA is basically team game, and 1 or 2 farmers can grow by killing neutral creeps. But all of them just play very selfish. I recognize them to push the line. Was I AFK? Did i forgot to put some warding? Did i not go for the help? I did my job. I am the support. I am the playmaker like Zidane. They just do not understand entrie flow of this game. So, Who won the game? And who let our teams turn over to push? It is me. I am not the one who ruinging the game. I am the one who force them to push and win the game. Is there any problem yet?

[BeerLord]

Yes, the problem is you mined the creep camps so your allies couldnt farm them. That is considered game ruining.

[mianmianhae]

i mined the creep camps to push teammates. Not to ruing the game. See the results who won, and who made this to turn over the game

mining on the neutra creep is rule breaking? I dont get it

If techie suicding to the enemies, but could not kill them.. can this be feeding too?

the situation is different. I made the game turn over. Check the replay again. When did it start to turn over

[mianmianhae]

If mining on the creep camp is breaking the rule, then I will admit my fault.
Unless it is not on the list, i cannot accept ban for a week

[BeerLord]

Again, yes, mining the creep camps is considered game ruining. The results are irrelevant. You must use different methods of persuasion.

[mianmianhae]

First, I tried to persuade them, and they did not listen. Teams get worse as time goes by. Should I lose at the game if my team members do not know the way?

Second, Which rule did I break in here? I cannot find "mining the creep camp is ruing the game"

"" Do not ruin the game on purpose:
1. Do not teamkill (ex. blocking, maliciously using spells, destroying/hiding/stealing/massing items, selling towers, etc).
2. Do not go away from keyboard for an excessive amount of time, especially without telling other players beforehand, and/or refuse to play the game in an attempt to ruin it. Neither are you allowed to grief by resetting the afk timer.
3. Do not feed or suicide on purpose which negatively affects the game.
4. Do not save or pause the game while playing in order to distract players and hinder gameplay.
5. Do not ghost by leaking information to your enemies/opponents.
6. Do not purposely glitch or exploit the game.
7. If teammates shared control, do not abuse it. ""

Which one did I break?
Just tell me which one is it?
Or you just made new rule to ban me?

Mining on the creep led us not to farm, and then push the lanes as fast as we could.
Even though they blamed me as loser, I led them to win the game
This can be considered as "Opportunity cost"
We can lose the chance to farm, but get more chance to win the game.

Have you watched the movie "captain america 3: civil war"?
Iron Man saved the world at Avengers2, but still got blamed.
From different point of view, he could be a disaster for someone
In general, we called him as a hero.

Mining on the creep was not ruing the game.
After mining, what did they do?
Blame me, and then they went to fight as a TEAM.
Now, what?
Our team won the game.

[Burnt]

sounds like your team won the game ENTIRELY due to your mines in the jungle huh?

[mianmianhae]

I am the support, I cannot push the line by myself.

I changed their mind strictly by my act which can be dangerous, but led them to win.

I strongly believe that My mine in the jungle help our team's victory.

SO, WHICH RULE DID I BREAK?

"

Do not ruin the game on purpose:
1. Do not teamkill (ex. blocking, maliciously using spells, destroying/hiding/stealing/massing items, selling towers, etc).
2. Do not go away from keyboard for an excessive amount of time, especially without telling other players beforehand, and/or refuse to play the game in an attempt to ruin it. Neither are you allowed to grief by resetting the afk timer.
3. Do not feed or suicide on purpose which negatively affects the game.
4. Do not save or pause the game while playing in order to distract players and hinder gameplay.
5. Do not ghost by leaking information to your enemies/opponents.
6. Do not purposely glitch or exploit the game.
7. If teammates shared control, do not abuse it.

"

[mianmianhae]

There is no such a rule like "mining on the creep base is ruining the game"

I am the only one who put the ward entire map of the game.

I was the support.

I am the playmaker. Not a carry

Although they blame me as game ruiner, My act was helpful. And game result proved it.

[mianmianhae]

You just have the ADMIN power and abusing ban by your personal thinking.

PLEASE comment, which rule did I break?

Do not ruin the game on purpose:
1. Do not teamkill (ex. blocking, maliciously using spells, destroying/hiding/stealing/massing items, selling towers, etc).
2. Do not go away from keyboard for an excessive amount of time, especially without telling other players beforehand, and/or refuse to play the game in an attempt to ruin it. Neither are you allowed to grief by resetting the afk timer.
3. Do not feed or suicide on purpose which negatively affects the game.
4. Do not save or pause the game while playing in order to distract players and hinder gameplay.
5. Do not ghost by leaking information to your enemies/opponents.
6. Do not purposely glitch or exploit the game.
7. If teammates shared control, do not abuse it.

[BeerLord]

It comes under the category of maliciously using spells. This is not a new phenomenon and you arent the first person banned for this. Nor would I ever make up a new rule just to ban someone.

[mianmianhae]

YOU BAN SO MANY PPL WITHOUT SPECIFIC REASON WHICH IS NOT LISTED ON THE BAN REASON

[mianmianhae]

You are just very annoying to answer

And you are not listening at all

[mianmianhae]

Then, why did this "Ban APPEAL" exist if ADMIN is just boring to listen player's appeal?

[mianmianhae]

I see why your answer is very arrogant, and cannot even comment the rule that i violated.

Are you the judge or lawer?

How could you ban the ppl who did not break the rule? You just used to ban the ppl like this?

Seems like you do not have the responsibility to do this work.