[ID] krisz@europe.battle.net; shirokami@europe.battle.net; bornshaman@useast.battle.net

[Photon_man24]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6380756
Game Name: [ENT] Island Defense #41
Your Warcraft III Username: IDL_Photon_man
Violator's Warcraft III Username: krisz, Bornshaman, ShiroKami
Violated Rule(s): Votekick abuse
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 66:14
Any further thoughts: I had just broken in far enough to kill a tower.

[Kougetsu]

I have seen the replay, and I must say, you might have broken the base. after like another 1h or so. after welton died at around 40 mins in-game, you have managed to to destroy ONE tower in almost 30 mins after welton died (last builder to die). And Although you may have managed to barely destroy ONE tower (over the corner. surrounding walls were still standing, not much of an accomplishment, imo) and had to immediately WW afterwards, Gobbo added like 10 additional towers.

And yeah, every titan can win if the games drags on long enough, but you nuke attemps always failed. True, you could have killed the base with nukes. But were you really able to do so? I don't think so. Everytime you tried to nuke a builder inside the base, you could only pull of 2 consecutive nukes, it was far off from killing anyone at that point. Because you've managed to nuke the noob magna, that was standing right at the front walls, doesn't mean you could pull it off against the remaining builders?

When it comes to VK because of stalling there is always the question of, whether the Titan could have won the game or not? In this case, surely you could have won this, but could you really put your plan into practice? Just from watching how careful the remaining builders were and how gobbo rewalled (always running back AS SOON AS you moved, even just turning your titan around made him move back right away). All that considered, you wouldn't have been able to break THAT base unless much more time passed from feeding off of walls. You might have pulled that off against less experienced players, but the 3 remaining builders weren't noobs.

p.s. I've also watched the other game, well it was practically the same as this one. You just want to win so badly, that you drag the game on and on and on... But unlike the other game you, didn't even nearly break the gobbo base as badly as the pirate base from your other ban request. And you killed him because he was careless.
In the Chat (of the other game) you said, that you would break that base. However getting in and killing 2 Towers always forced you to tp out right away or you would have died to that pirate base. So is getting 2 Towers and TP out/use Ankh equivalent to breaking a base? From that statement, I can see that your understanding of "Breaking a Base" is completely different from mine, and I asume most of the others too.

p.s.s.: "Stalling is only when I have no chance of winning" (From other replay) <--- That is practically never the case if it's your logic, cuz Titan could feed off walls, get full inventory and tome like a madman, but in the process you waste like several hours of your life for that, GOOD JOB.

[ShiroKami]

In my (and the others) defense, we were refering to this rule: " The titan can be kicked if he does not kill a builder in 20 minutes time upon the condition that 60% of the builders alive agree to having the titan kicked. "

And the circumstances mentioned above. I personally dont see much of difference in both games. It took him almost 30 minutes to kill the 1 side tower that almost all titans go for if they can (without needing to kill the last wall).

I don't want to say, that other Titans (Burn, Lynx, TNFU, Humik, Foss etc.) wouldn't have killed me, in fact they would have, but he couldn't.

[Merex]

Reviewing.

[Merex]

This case is entirely different from the previous, leave it at that.

On topic to this one, I will say breaking one tower in the span of 20-30 minutes is pretty slow on the progress. The potential for a titan to win is always their mindset in these stages of the game, but speaking in general terms, I feel the chances were much slimmer in this particular game. The one tower that was broken wasn't even a successful break, was just due to range-hit.

Denied.