[Battleship] ban request on asia.best [glitching]

[mild7777seven]

Your Warcraft III username: mild7777seven
Violator's Warcraft III username: asia.beast
Game name or map name: battleship
Stats page link:
Rule player violated:
Time of incidents (Note in-game timer or replay timer):
Any further thoughts: asia.beast and his other 2 accounts join the game. in the game, his 2 accounts did nothing but pooling and staying in the base. As a result, the other side has no chance to play cuz this guy has triple income.

glitching is against the rules. there were some guy banned because of glitching. viewtopic.php?f=24&t=23708

And interestingly, it seems like I am not the only guy request to ban him.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=25293
looks like this guy is doing this all the time. I would strongly suggest admin ban him longer than usual

[lolships]

Burning items in Battleships Pro isn't actually glitching - it's a game mechanic intended for use by the designers of the map, and is ubiquitously employed by those who actually explore the game. Although potentially pretentious, the loading screen's statement "this is not a noob (insert fancy color) map" does have some purpose. Perhaps you could try to employ the use of said technique, and see what kind of fun you can have!!

[mild7777seven]

Burning items in Battleships Pro isn't actually glitching - it's a game mechanic intended for use by the designers of the map, and is ubiquitously employed by those who actually explore the game. Although potentially pretentious, the loading screen's statement "this is not a noob (insert fancy color) map" does have some purpose. Perhaps you could try to employ the use of said technique, and see what kind of fun you can have!!

I am not talking about burning items. I burn items every game. But if some player get all income from his teammate, he is undefeated in battleship. If glitching is ok in this case, every team should just pool one guy, in which way, I believe, is the most effective way to win. Plus, there is no specific rules in battleship, but glitching is against the general rules of entgaming.

[lolships]

It seems that you both acknowledge that burning is not glitching, and also insist that someone should be banned for glitching based on their burning items. If burning is allowed, and pooling is allowed (pretty obvious given the fact that -share can be enabled even in NT games, and the acknowledgement of the legitimacy of burning by the designers), then your argument seems to boil down to this: ban people for teamwork.
Please clarify your position: are you actually making the claim that burning items is a glitch, or are you just complaining when people do it to help each other?

[mild7777seven]

It seems that you both acknowledge that burning is not glitching, and also insist that someone should be banned for glitching based on their burning items. If burning is allowed, and pooling is allowed (pretty obvious given the fact that -share can be enabled even in NT games, and the acknowledgement of the legitimacy of burning by the designers), then your argument seems to boil down to this: ban people for teamwork.
Please clarify your position: are you actually making the claim that burning items is a glitch, or are you just complaining when people do it to help each other?

I would suggest u view the replay then u will understand why so many people are mad at him.

i assume u familiar with battleship. Under Accelerate NT mode, 3.3K gold is divided to each player at the beginning. that means u either change ship to Seapunisher/junker/domi/dest and buy starter weapon like crusier cannon, or stay sailor with intermediate weapon. While, this guy is pooled by the other 2 accounts/pooler (all created by himself suspected), which means he has 9.9k to spend. In this game, he came out as seapunisher(1700) with a CHAOS cannon (6050), a bronze hull(800), a sight(400), a normal wood (750) and a sail! And the 2 pooler just stay in the base and continue to pool him.

My comments to this will be: (1) i hardly believe this is a teamwork (2) he is undefeated from the first minute, all he gonna do is killing/pushing towers.(3) the only way came to my mind that probably could work against that is, i have 3 or 4 pooler, which i believe is not the expectation by author or players

[lolships]

I see the difficulty produced by the strategy. My brother and I play Battleships, and when we are facing some OP enemy (pooling/leavers/feeders), we use the following strategy - one of us gets destroyer w/ tank items and teleport, the other gets destroyer with teleport replicator and dps/tank as needed. It's simple enough - the tank destroyer pops silence, teleports in, boards. Once he's boarded, the other guy teleports in and pops replicator, spamming board like crazy in an effort to keep the guy pinned down with 3 boats (including a copy of his own) on top of him. As you can imagine, if you are even 1/2 as powerful as this guy, you have a good shot of pwning him. So if there are 5 of you on a team, I bet you can come up with some good strategies to work the pooler!
Granted, it may be hard to coordinate that with random players, but if you do - it's so epic! And if you don't want to deal with it, the games start quickly enough you can just dodge that guy - I shamelessly dodge random games when there are 3 or 4 very experienced players all on one side because it's boring to play with or against them; !scores ftw.
I suppose I just like the idea of people messing around w/ balance and game strategy, and don't see a need to ban something like pooling a guy in a team game. I like that people are getting riled up about it - go find some friends and make a counter-pool team to play against him haha!

[Stealer]

Burning items in Battleships Pro isn't actually glitching - it's a game mechanic intended for use by the designers of the map,

viewtopic.php?p=94976#p94976

and is ubiquitously employed by those who actually explore the game.

as are most glitches.

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If asia is indeed multiboxing that is bannable and therefore if you have replays with asia.beast, moreminerals, and mymousebroke you should upload them to this thread.

~16 Actions / Game

mymousebrokeAPM.PNG (6.38 KiB) Viewed 937 times

~18 Actions / Game

moremineralsAPM.PNG (6.42 KiB) Viewed 937 times

The APM of two of the pooling players is very suspicious.

[Stealer]

Still occurring, https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=3011431

Hes now using a glitch to pool instead of -pool + -share though. He has the other two accounts buy hulls and drop them on him which causes the map to auto-sell them for full price.

The two new accounts that are being used are 978tg23oi & 27tr8ohgeuh instead of mymousebroke & moreminerals which was confirmed to be the same pair by @art)y.


Another instance if here http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 996987.w3g
You'll notice that up until it was only asia.beast & allies in the game he was still using the glitch to give gold via item burning to his main ship.

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To summarize for art)y.

Item burning is considering glitching and has been enforced as a 3 day ban. So he is already breaking at least one rule which high frequency.

The real issue is that he is doing something equivalent to multi-boxing (and regardless of if it is multi-boxing or multiple vm / etc I'm going to use multi-boxing).
He joins the games with 3 accounts, asia.beast + 2 others. The 2 others then proceed to use either -pool or item burning to give all their gold to asia.beast. You will also notice that they all move at different times than the others (which is a good indication that only 1 person is controlling them) and that the 2 others have very low apm (almost like they joined the game with the purpose to afk).
I have uploaded the last 5 replays below and they all show instances of this. One of the games he only has moreminerals but pooling still occurs.

This is clear-cut usage of multi-boxing to gain an advantage over the other team as anybody good at battleships can tell you, in a 1v5 from start, the 1 wins. Due to his highly accelerated gold gain he is easily able to kill anybody on the other team and quickly wins.

This should be considered under the "use of a utility" section of general rules.


Also tod is obviously soft_sand alt, please don't unban.

[aRt)Y]

Banned IP on all realms. We'll take it on the next level (appeal) so he can explain it.