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[LTD] eni useast.battle.net

Postby eternal_fame » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:34 am

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=9525614
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega #50
Your Warcraft III Username: unknown_legend
Violator's Warcraft III Username: eni useast.battle.net
Violated Rule(s): hard trolling + solo play and tk
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): from lvl 1 onwards
Any further thoughts: he start troll on lvl 1 and doesnt stop, says he doesnt care in game if i`m there, well then he should leave in lobby.
ALSO, no send with team on lvl 2 because he was trolling (full 45 sec of it), up too much king for lvl 7 i.e. he upped to 16 attack, then up more when its clear we hold and all say send and dont send full with us on lvl 8.

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Re: [LTD] eni useast.battle.net

Postby ahols91 » Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:23 pm

lvl 2 i just forgot to send. Had to much focus on ur tk crossbuild.

Other than that this shud be denied as I sent with team and upped king.

Edit; And btw, how did I tk, and not u? u went 7/7 pre 10 when we were crap on 13. It was u that made us loose not me.
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Re: [LTD] eni useast.battle.net

Postby Unitil » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:13 am

Below are my thoughts on the above claims, and what I've found while using DRM.

Hard Trolling:
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All Chat Logs

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1:06    [Allies] Eni: wtf?
1:10    [Allies] Eni: -rolls
1:20    [Allies] Eni: why u cross red with him
1:20    [Allies] Eni: omg
1:32    [Allies] Eni: Man its eternal noob
1:35    [Allies] Eni: hes famous for sucking
1:39    [Allies] Eni: !ff
1:47    [Allies] Eni: go ff
2:11    [Allies] Eni: man blue u suck
2:14    [Allies] Eni: its team game
2:16    [Allies] Eni: and u sck
2:21    [Allies] Eni: xD
2:26    [Allies] Eni: pretty amazing
2:31    [Allies] Eni: u dont realize u suck xD
2:35    [Allies] Eni: and think u good rofl
2:41    [Allies] Eni: !ff
2:46    [Allies] Eni: man this noob :-(
2:50    [Allies] Eni: who cares
3:18    [Allies] Eni: xDDDDD
3:27    [Allies] Eni: why u get unbanned :-(
3:54    [Allies] Eni: i report u for troll np
4:07    [Allies] Eni: tbh
4:18    [Allies] Eni: xD
4:19    [Allies] Eni: i troll
4:21    [Allies] Eni: not u
4:21    [Allies] Eni: xD
4:53    [Allies] Eni: i dont give a crap about this game as long as blue is not willing to learn
4:56    [Allies] Eni: how to play
5:28    [Allies] Eni: LOOK THIS SHIT
5:42    [Allies] Eni: WOW HE KEEPS BUILDING DEAD VAL
5:54    [Allies] Eni: its like hes doing it on purpose
8:55    [Allies] Eni: am i  rly stuck in this game
8:59    [Allies] Eni: fucking hell
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29:01 [Allies] Eni: we lose
29:25 [Allies] Eni: give him
29:27 [Allies] Eni: so he tk
29:29 [Allies] Eni: control

• Eni berated unknown_legend for the first 1/3rd of the game, stops talking till the end of the game, and tells the team to give him control to frame him for a potential tk.
(king was going to die regardless of who was going to control him)
• There was no attempt to help coach his team mate during this game, while making a claim that he was unwilling to learn. Do not make this claim if you're not attempting to help improve your team mates situation/understanding of the game.


Solo Play and TK:
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You've mentioned that he did not send for Level 2 which is true. This was in connection with him insulting unknown_legend during this game, however, he only had 5 seconds till the start of the next round to send since that is when the decision was made. There was little time for him to send regardless.

• There were no other rounds that went through where he attempted to solo send, and did send with the team.
• There was no evidence of intentional team kill per the definitions/rules posted on the wiki


Concluding Thoughts:
Though there was berating/insults being sent by Eni towards unknown_legend, there was no obvious teamkill during the game. Eni should not have opened the game by insulting a team mate and expect them to request help learning the game. If you do not wish to teach/play with someone you should skip the lobby, and join the next game.

Rules I believe were broken during this game:

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• Do not flame, rage, troll, or insult other players excessively.

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Re: [LTD] eni useast.battle.net

Postby Keelay » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:27 pm

I agree with @Until. For many games, flame is not excessive, however I believe:

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1:06 [Allies] Eni: wtf?
1:10 [Allies] Eni: -rolls
1:20 [Allies] Eni: why u cross red with him
1:20 [Allies] Eni: omg
1:32 [Allies] Eni: Man its eternal noob
1:35 [Allies] Eni: hes famous for sucking
1:39 [Allies] Eni: !ff
1:47 [Allies] Eni: go ff
2:11 [Allies] Eni: man blue u suck
2:14 [Allies] Eni: its team game
2:16 [Allies] Eni: and u sck
2:21 [Allies] Eni: xD
2:26 [Allies] Eni: pretty amazing
2:31 [Allies] Eni: u dont realize u suck xD
2:35 [Allies] Eni: and think u good rofl
2:41 [Allies] Eni: !ff
2:46 [Allies] Eni: man this noob :-(
2:50 [Allies] Eni: who cares
3:18 [Allies] Eni: xDDDDD
3:27 [Allies] Eni: why u get unbanned :-(
3:54 [Allies] Eni: i report u for troll np
4:07 [Allies] Eni: tbh
4:18 [Allies] Eni: xD
4:19 [Allies] Eni: i troll
4:21 [Allies] Eni: not u
4:21 [Allies] Eni: xD
4:53 [Allies] Eni: i dont give a crap about this game as long as blue is not willing to learn

I find these last lines interesting, though I feel it's a further attempt to either upset another player or get attention, which should be taken elsewhere.

As for your failure to send with team, don't you think your focus should be on the game and not griefing another player? Had you been paying attention on the game and not on flaming blue, perhaps this wouldn't even have been an issue.

I think this can be considered excessive. While a player can be muted, the !ff abuse from the beginning of the game shows that Eni never was willing to be a teamplayer... For someone with 2 1000+ elo accounts, I don't think a warning is necessary, rules should already be known.
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Re: [LTD] eni useast.battle.net

Postby ahols91 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:42 pm

Oh cmon look at the replay from a different perspective pls. He has probably over 20k games on ltd and end up going one of the worst cross I've ever seen with the worst unit in game without even thinking about what other ppl advice him off. If you know how to play ltd you would actually think he trolled but he woesnt. Just ignorant and unwilling to learn. You expect a player knowing certain stuff after being on 1200+ for couple of times and all these years playing this shit. The flame only lasted 4 minutes anyway wouldnt call that excessive.. he could just ignore it anyway. After that I didnt say shit and just played this game where blue ended up teamkilling and I probably get the ban. Whatever..
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Re: [LTD] eni useast.battle.net

Postby Unitil » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:43 am

I understand your frustration with the above reviews of the game, but the individual reporting felt you were "hard trolling" as he put it, and what we've reported above is what we pulled from our own personal perspective. Opening the game with residual bad blood does not help prevent these sort of reports from popping up on the forum, and they must be reviewed by someone.

Per the wiki regarding the rules
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ahols91 wrote:The flame only lasted 4 minutes anyway wouldn't call that excessive.. he could just ignore it anyway.

Having to ignore your team mates should never be needed, and i applaud him for not doing it. He kept his means of communication open to coordinate any sort of team play.

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ahols91 wrote:After that I didnt say shit and just played this game

I understand that you did stay quiet after your initial barrage, however, carrying on flame from a different set of games does not produce an enjoyable gaming experience. Had you just played per normal or even offered input into current strategies I do not believe we would of had to review this game at all. I say this since overall you were rather tame once you finished your initial barrage of insults.

I apologize if I stepped on any toes during this comment, but understanding what the rules are here for is a large part of keeping the community enjoyable.

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Re: [LTD] eni useast.battle.net

Postby bezdak » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:29 pm

@Unitil Make your damn application already :) Well done as usual.

@ahols91 You were annoyance for your whole team and made a bad atmosphere right from the start. Try to think, how would you feel being on the other side (not only as the insulted one but also as your teammates having to read such stuff).

User Eni banned for excessive flaming, 2 days (second offence).

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