Please allow me to observe

[Im_Halp]

I made an attempt on the 23rd of July to get vouched for lihl. I will be posting another lihl app shortly; however, I am posting here as I have tried to observe a handful of lihl games and have been denied the observer spot, on multiple occasions. This is the specific rule which states why I am not allowed to be denied:

"One veto is enough to reject a player from observing a game, however, the observer spot may not be denied to moderators or players who were not yet vouched before."

This rule clearly states that it is my right, as a player who has not been vouched, to observe any lihl game that I want to. When I found this rule, I brought it to the attention of a moderator; unfortunately the conversation was not beneficial. This has led me to posting here.

I understand that I do not have a "good" relationship with every player, both in lihl and in public, and this is mainly because of my attitude- at times. But, I am doing my best to keep the drama at a minimum, that is I try to not start the drama. I am still working on not responding, as this seems to be the more difficult issue. However, this does not give people the right to break the rules or to mislead others into breaking the rules for them when they can not break it themselves. All I am asking is that people follow the rules, this way I can learn the game better.

[TinSoldier]

What makes you think your next application will be any different than the last? You have severe attitude issues that lead me and others to believe that you do not belong here. You throw tantrums when given advice/criticized, have low skill and act like a child. I could understand if it was just me who had this problem with you but its multiple LIHL players all reporting the same issues. What makes you think you can mistreat and act out towards LIHL players and then have the audacity to whine when we dont let you observe games.

If this is your "last resort" on trying to obs some games then once again you demonstrate your failure to grasp the real problem. Try repairing the damage you've done to your reputation and the relationship between you and some members before you consider applying again. Burning bridges isn't going to get you anywhere.

[Im_Halp]

@tinsoldier

How do you expect me to develop a relationship with individuals who either break the rules to spite me or they insult & flame me in order for me to retaliate to what they just said? Why is it I am the one at fault when I am responding to what these people first did? Why is it okay for Lihl players to do these things to me but not okay for me to do it back? I understand I am at fault as well, but do not make it seem as though I am simply acting out 'just because'; that is not the case. I am working on my attitude, and there are people who can attest to this, and I would appreciate if others would work on their attitude as well.

[FadingSuns]

If someone does not want obs then they might be kicked.

Only ppl that are currently on vouch proccess wont be kicked.

I process this and stop pushing into the wrong direction @halp

[KiwiLeKiller]

If someone does not want obs then they might me kicked.

Only ppl that are currently on vouch proccess wont be kicked.

I process this and stop pushing into the wrong direction @halp

You are actually wrong.

One veto is enough to reject a player from observing a game, however, the observer spot may not be denied to moderators or players who were not yet vouched before.

And what about not dealing with this since it is related to halp?

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[HazarDous]

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@FadingSuns

Change the rule ASAP.