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Re: Clog

Postby Meshtar » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:07 pm

If creeps had less collision it means they would also gather around the king much easier and deal a lot more damage which is kinda the whole point? Damage on 15 comes mostly from sends and very little from regular creeps which makes clog so successful, if regular creeps dealt more dmg because more of them can attack the king at the same time, then clogging team would suffer the same or more damage on king as the team who leaked 20 creeps and sends only, so that actually means that team who leaks more suffers more king damage which is actually the solution to clog? I agree that 15 would become a harder level probably, but comparison to 7 is completely out of the place. The focus fire that satyrs do is mostly due to the fact that people can have few decent towers on 7 (like 1200-1400 value at most) so satyrs focus fire those 3-4 towers that are in front depending on the build. On 15 (3000-4000 value usually) there are a lot more towers so the damage that creeps do can be better distributed and countered with builds and tower placement. On the other hand leaking like 20 creeps and sends wouldn't make any difference to damage done to king , since 20-ish creeps can already attack king on 15.
Either way I think the idea is worth testing, giving these guesses based on anyone's general LTD knowledge won't get this anywhere. I think @bezdak proved that himself with that level 18 holder test he has done, I'm pretty sure noone here would have bet on pudges to work out the best as holders for that wave.

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Re: Clog

Postby dweiler » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:31 am

I personally think we should do nothing. We had a big clog discussion a while ago when almost every game was decided by clog. That is not the case anymore. Maybe clog can work in SOME cases, but it is definitely not overpowered anymore or ruining the game.

In this case, don't fix what is not (really) broken.
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