Is Winning Chaos a hack?

[Burn]

To my knowledge, right click on deny and range circles only exist in DotA2 (but anything modded for DotA2 can easily be modded for wc3).

Anyway, these are still trivial points, you can argue all you want about keeping the game fair, but the truth is, the majority of the community does not care. Only the staff cares, because you are either defending your staff and its rules, or being uptight, bragging justice (be it Blizzard ToS, or being banhappy).

Let me state again: The majority of the community DOES NOT CARE.

Now, I just want to inform you one more time, the community is what matters, the community is what builds it together. If the community is angry (the DotA1 veterans who uses these mods), then the pros are not going to play on ENT, or is going to use it regardless (since they are not detectable anyway).

To sum it up in nice little bullet points again in order of importance:

- 99% of the community does not care about others using these mods, as they are trivial. (we can prove this via public poll with no staff votes to reduce biased votes)
- The banning of these mods drives the community away, if there ever was a ban, it could cause shit-storms. This leads for rules that are not beneficial to the community, which is bad for everyone.
- These mods do not ruin the gaming experience of others, and does not really benefit the user.
- These mods are not detectable, hence no-one is going to be banned anyway
- Making of trivial rules (overall) is not a good idea, as it means more people are banned for things that does not ruin the game in any sense. [spoiler=Minimized for layout]This is how bans are made for, bans are made for players that ruin the gaming experience of others, not banning because of little things that can improve the gaming experience of others, which may or may not alter the gaming experience of players in the other team.[/spoiler]
- Saying that these modifications are altering the gaming experience of yourself and others is not a good argument (as said above), so please stop making the same one and only argument over and over and over again.
- I am accusing the staff of being uptight for making trivial rules.
- I am accusing the staff for not thinking for him/herself by merely defending the rules (it's tough being a hater).


Peace,
-Burn

[EdgeOfChaos]

You don't think the community cares about fair games?

Who made you the spokesman for the entire dota community?

(Edit) For the record, I don't think I would ban (or maybe for like 1 day) for mana bars if I saw it. But to be consistent with the rule of no third party programs which edit the gameplay, manabars should be against the rules.

[Burn]

You don't think the community cares about fair games?

I have over 6 years of experience in Island Defense, and more on other Custom games. I've played with players all around the world. When they are enlightened of the fact that I use these mods, they go "Oh, that's awesome, where can I find it?" Instead of "Bro, that's overpowered, and shouldn't be allowed." Your last sentence seems to agree with the first quote to some extent.

Who made you the spokesman for the entire dota community?

Experience. I've met a huge size of players, and to everyone of these players that have heard of me using message macros or mana-bars have not cared. That's still a huge sample size. I can not claim 100%, so I put 99% there. Community leaders (eg. ENT staff, DotA2 staff) should not be restricting the players of doing neat little things if it does not give you a huge advantage (like maphack does) and does not ruin the gaming of others.

Also, what you don't know won't hurt you, right? It's not like us mod users go out and just flaunt our magical deeds.

-Burn

[QTriNitY]

Chaos, check out Burn's profile in BGN.
If you disagree with him due to post counts (i assume) in Ent, please read his posts in BGN to understand that Burn came a long way, way before your existance in forums.

- http://blinkgaming.net/forums/user/103-burnshady/

[spoiler=]And this is awesome too. Meaning I've banned at least 250 times on violations)
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