DOTA New Map 6.51k Players

[SeriouslyStrange]

Can all the players that WANT to play the new dota game, please reply here?
The bot that is hosting the game is always empty (ENT51) and perhaps it's because people don't know or something.
I really want to play, but no use in waiting hours for a game that wont begin.

[Larz]

maybe we can get it advertised on the other bots @hazardous

[HazarDous]

Already did, @larz

[ForReports]

6.51k map is very bad. To boring ot even play it and all heroes are changed to much. When you play that map is like giving up dota.

[Dota-Reaper]

yea...that map has issues.

[Ryan]

How doesn't one find this new map?!? XD

[Emperor]

Agreed that there was a poll taken and it was like 94% in favor of keeping current map over 6.51...

[Sylvanas]

6.51k map is very bad. To boring ot even play it and all heroes are changed to much. When you play that map is like giving up dota.

It's actually keeping up with dota. I think 6.83 should be abandoned entirely, just like every other version before it. Each time, there was people complaining EVERYTHING WAS RUINED FOREVER, which never happened. Nobody asked for their permission to switch to the most recent map and everything has always been fine.

Anyway I would play it. b.net dota/ent has just gotten way too averse to change. Either you have to force it on them or you have to find those willing to move on and organize games with them. The bot games aren't going to work since everyone interested in them simultaneously considers no one else will join.

[SeriouslyStrange]

The main reason that most people didn't want to make the switch was because there was no "EM" mode anymore.
Which would delete all the one click heroes, and would make actually playing as a team a necessary thing.
No EM means no more autoattacking huskar at mid, no afk farming LC, or Meepo with Scepter and Skadi at minute 10.
Which pissed people off.
Like Sylvanas said, I personally think if it isn't forced on people, then people will simply say no. This EM playstyle is more of "I can solo farm faster, and solo win this game". Which is just ridiculous.

[Sylvanas]

I find it ridiculous that the exclusion of em made it a "em vs non-em" question for a lot of people instead of "updated vs old". It would be better to just give them em and move on to the new map than to keep not giving them em and move on to... nothing. In my opinion, both sides are being retarded about this, but dracolich is the one that's best able to do something about it.

Never understood why em/non-em is such a big deal to people. It's pretty noticeable early on, but much less so as the game progresses. Non em is better balanced, since it encourages a mixed team composition, but both are completely playable. I personally play arem only, because everyone doesn't necessarily get to pick whichever heroes you feel take advantage of em. That and I wouldn't stand playing the same hero/few heroes every game and couldn't bring myself not to because then I'd feel like I'm not taking full advantage of my pick.